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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1390760)2/10/2023 2:58:22 PM
From: Wharf Rat1 Recommendation

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"Brumar, you're probably sick of balloon news by now, so hopefully this will be the last one for a while:"

Hold Rat's beer

"they were also interested in recovering the equipment with as minimal damage as possible"
We only needed one.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1390760)2/10/2023 4:58:50 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation

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I think we just shot down another balloon, this one in Alaska.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1390760)2/10/2023 7:02:45 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 1577978
 
I'm sick of your pandering BS. Your excuse didn't even make it through one day.
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"But I also think that these balloons didn't really gather all that much sensitive info regarding our homeland defenses, which is why the military didn't feel any urgency whatsoever to shoot it down.

It's more political symbolism than anything."
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High-Altitude Object Over Alaska Shot Down By F-22 Jet; CH-47 Helicopters Deployed In Recovery Op

by Tyler Durden

Friday, Feb 10, 2023 - 10:47 AM
Update(1608ET): Pentagon Press Secretary Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder gave few additional details in a briefing shortly after it was revealed the US military shot down an unidentified object flying over Alaska Thursday night. When questioned about the possibility of second Chinese balloon, Ryder said the US has yet to reach out to China over the latest object.

The White House has also said that ownership has not been established. Ryder additionally repeated that the aircraft had been seen as a hazard to civilian aviation, and that it was shot down by an F-22 jet with a sidewinder missile. According to more from the Pentagon press briefing:

  • The Pentagon cannot say if the object shot down over Alaska was a balloon, it is sure that there were no people on board: Kirby
  • Pentagon says object shot down over Alaska "wasn't an aircraft per say"
  • U.S. Military used F-22 aircraft to take down object over Alaska on Friday, using a sidewinder missile: Pentagon
  • Ryder says U.S. Army CH-47 helicopters have launched to recover debris from the downed ‘object’ in NE Alaska in the frozen waters near the U.S.-Canadian border.


Bro pic.twitter.com/FbWyNZP9Gq

— Caleb Howe (@CalebHowe) February 10, 2023So it seems, the world could soon find out what this object actually was. However, recovery could take time given the difficult weather elements in Northeast Alaska.

The U.S. military used an F-22 aircraft to take down the object off Alaska today and used a "sidewinder missile" to do so, Pentagon spokesperson Brigadier General Patrick S Ryder says. t.co pic.twitter.com/TTcsIXs3Ml

— CBS News (@CBSNews) February 10, 2023* * *

A US official has said Friday that the US military engaged and shot down an unidentified object flying first observed over Alaska on Thursday night, upon the order given by President Biden.

It's unconfirmed whether the unidentified object was a balloon, "but it was traveling at an altitude that made it a potential threat to civilian aircraft," according to The New York Times, which first reported it Friday afternoon.

US Air Force file imageThe president gave the shootdown order "out of an abundance of caution," the unnamed US official said, coming on the heels of the dramatic Chinese 'spy' balloon shootdown off the American east coast last Saturday.

The scant details given to the Times didn't reveal any information that might point to the nature of the flying object, or if it was possibly a weather or spy balloon (China still insists last week's balloon was purely for weather research purposes, and that it blew off course).

A separate official quoted in the new report commenting on the second object to breach US airspace in a week called it a "fast-moving" situation, and that it's still developing - thus more details are expected to soon trickle out.

"It is not clear if the object was from an adversarial power, or a commercial or research operation that has gone astray, the official said," NYT reports.

?? #BREAKING White House: Object smaller than recent balloon downed near Alaska a few moments ago

It’s suspected to be another Chinese Balloon

— War Monitor (@WarMonitors) February 10, 2023Officials called the airspace breach relatively short, and could not readily identify what it was. It's also unclear whether a recovery team is able to access the down object, or whether it took place over water or land.

In a briefing administration spokesman John Kirby said the Pentagon had been tracking the object before deeming it a "reasonable threat" to the safety of civilian aviation, as it was traveling at 40,000 feet:

Kirby: A "high altitude object" has been shot down over Alaska pic.twitter.com/Ps2W9nCBHz

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) February 10, 2023Meanwhile, on Friday the US announced it will go after Chinese firms deemed connected with the manufacture of the alleged spy balloon shot down last weekend...

US SET TO SANCTION CHINESE FIRMS CONNECTED TO SPY BALLOON




To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1390760)2/14/2023 1:05:45 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 1577978
 
so much for the "easier to gather the parts in the shallow East Coast waters" lie. it turns out the entire story IS a fabrication to distract from Seymour Hersch.
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White House: No indication yet downed objects were part of China spy balloon program




John Kirby at a White House news conference in Aug. 2022. Photo: Al Drago/Bloomberg via Getty Images

The U.S. intelligence community has had no indication so far that the three unidentified objects shot down over the weekend were tied to external espionage efforts, National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters Tuesday.

The big picture: The downing of four aerial objects this month has captured the nation's attention, with Defense officials saying the chain events has no peacetime precedent.

Driving the news: Kirby added that a leading explanation could be that the objects were "benign" and "tied to commercial or research entities."

  • The search for the debris from the unidentified objects — downed over Alaska, Canada's Yukon territory and Michigan's Lake Huron — is ongoing.
  • A surveillance balloon sent by the Chinese government was shot down in early February over the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of South Carolina.
Details: Kirby emphasized that no definite conclusions about the aerial objects could be made without analyzing the objects' debris.

  • Asked whether there was a possibility that the debris would never be recovered, Kirby acknowledged that it was a "difficult question" but said, "we’re taking this day by day and doing the best we can to try to locate the debris and then develop a plan to recover it.”
  • "We haven’t seen any indication or anything that points specifically to the idea that these three objects were part of the People’s Republic of China’s spy balloon program, or that they were definitively involved in external intelligence collection efforts,” Kirby said.
  • The objects did not appear to have been operated by the U.S. government, per Kirby.


  • No individual or entity has yet come forward to claim the objects, he added.
State of play: Efforts to collect the debris from the objects have been difficult due to "tough" weather and geographic conditions, Kirby said, pointing to the depth of Lake Huron, the Yukon wilderness, and sea ice north of Alaska.

Of note: Mark Milley, chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, during a press briefing Tuesday said that when U.S. forces attempted to take down the object over Lake Huron, the first missile fired at the target missed while the second one hit.

  • The missile "landed harmlessly in the water of Lake Huron," Milley added.