In this system ,,””just not good enough,,”” for a minority of the population ,, not happy with this so...
No. "In this system,”just not good enough,” for a MAJORITY of the population, not happy with this so"...
The problem is the shit show we have is being imposed by a delusional minority...
where we are at now, "one adult one vote "...again being, as it has often enough in history, made dysfunctional... as "the count of adults" is irrelevant... but is now deliberately disconnected from the "adults" in question actually being responsible for casting their own ballots, to express their own opinion. "Ballot harvesting" and "over-voting"... ensure the votes that are cast... are not cast legitimately... so that "the vote" doesn't reflect the will of the majority. The minority has taken control by fraud... and, now, they're bitching about the fact that we've noticed... and, the closer they come to having power wrested from their whiny, bitchy hands... the more unhinged they become... And, you're providing us with proofs as a case in point.
An aside... on the vote counting thing... and the fraud in "fact checkers" fictional authority...
Fact check: Stalin likely didn't say quote about 'those who count the votes decide everything'
The lefty spin machine operating as usual, here... tries to discredit the concept... by denying the attribution... and hoping most will ignore both the "bait and switch" being put in play... and the lie told to enable it.
"But experts say there's no evidence Stalin ever uttered the words."
Really... ? "Experts", huh ? Apparently... neither the "experts" nor the "journalist" have ever learned how to use this new fangled thing that's out there now, called "a search engine"... although, the words they present re having found "evidence" of others saying similar things... obviously makes the failure look pretty suspicious.
If you DO use one... yourself... thus qualifying yourself as far more reliable than "an expert"... what you find is... Stalin probably DID say it... only, it was not his original idea, but an appropriation... and, merely another entry in a long series of similar statements made by people... each of whom likely were in position to understand it was not merely "conjectural":
As Long As I Count the Votes, What Are You Going To Do About It?
In 1989 “The Observer” newspaper of London attributed the saying to U.S.S.R. leader Joseph Stalin who had died in 1953:[9]
Then again, as Stalin is supposed to have said, it’s not who votes that matters but who counts the votes.
Boris Bazhanov who defected from the Soviet Union in 1928 was the personal secretary of Joseph Stalin. Bazhanov published a memoir which was released in several editions over time. The reference “Lend Me Your Ears: Oxford Dictionary of Political Quotations” cited the 1992 edition in which Bazhanov stated that Stalin employed a version of the saying in 1923:[10]
I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.
said in 1923; Boris Bazhanov The Memoirs of Stalin’s Former Secretary (1992)
and you are suggesting more of the same or escalating ten fold is OK?
The problem is simple enough... when politicians lie about this or that... the voters get to throw them out. But, when the system of elections is corrupted... so that doesn't happen... and flagrantly (as has been proven true as the one true touchstone in the career of one Joe Biden) lying becomes a qualification reward by the vote counters... rather than a dis-qualifier ?
Then, yes... Because the point of it... is LEGITIMACY... or the lack of it ? And, when the lack of it is imposed... in result, the power being exercised lacks all legitimacy... and it should not be acknowledged as legitimate.
I'm not going to worry nearly as much about shit stains on the walls of the Capitol... as I do about the shit stains INSIDE the Capitol who are destroying the integrity of elections, and the legitimacy of the government ?
And, in that, I'm comfortable enough in thinking that has me keeping good company.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
All that leaves... is a need to conduct a discussion about limits and prudence.
The events of January 6th... were a protest... objecting to fraudulent elections... and were not the "insurrection" that was fomented... intending it to alter the outcome of elections... in the "peaceful, but fiery" efforts of the national socialist BLM movement's attack on middle America... The element in the false flag... not the protest... CLEARLY was an event that was STAGED... by those who have tried to use it in order to label their political opponents as "insurrectionists" or "traitors" ?
Why they think doing that... is going to help them... while they desperately seek to sustain the illegitimacy that spawned the protests... refusing even to acknowledge the legitimacy of the protestors concerns... or THEIR OWN requirement to provide acceptable proofs of it for us...? The lack of legitimacy... is actually proven by their denial that they have any obligation to provide it, or provide proofs of it... that any but themselves are willing to accept ? Not only do they "get to count the votes"... they claim for themselves the right to determine what OTHERS will accept as legitimate ? LOL !!! And you wonder why there's a problem?
And, that's a simple enough issue, too... that boils down to 'good faith'... as either you have it, or you don't.
They're proving they don't... as tends to occur when you call >50% of the population "terrorists" ?
So, you have a simple choice, in result... tolerate the protests... as they work to expose problems and force change... and accept that the solution to them... is to address the concerns of those protesting in good faith... or, don't worry about good faith... don't address their legitimate concerns... try to hold on to power by illegitimate means... mislabeling the protests as "insurrection"... until people do figure out that what you are demanding, and telling them, is that they will not agree, and legitimacy will not be restored without it...
But, of course, insisting on sustaining their illegitimacy... the lack of good faith... while suppressing protest... DOESrather tend to ensure their ignorance forces their excesses to fester MORE... not less... and, then, NATURALLY will work to accelerate the ACTUAL arrival of guillotines... rather than political posturing and protest... ?
You'd think they must believe that they've just invented tyranny... and that the world has never seen the like of them, before ?
As I have said ,,in Canada an election was held 6 months before
Did that election... somehow... obviate the need for the government of Canada to sustain its legitimacy, or the need to act in good faith in order to sustain legitimacy ? Because there sure a lot of people in Canada who seem pretty intent on misinterpreting the result of one election... as empowering them as absolute dictators...
What's most obvious, here, is that the Canadian government is acting far outside legitimacy... while refusing to acknowledge the BASIC rights of its own citizens... but, also, refusing to acknowledge the BASIC limits that constrain governments... from becoming what Canada's apparently has...
That same government that has a long history of abusing native children... is now seeking to extend "equal treatment" to the rest of the population...
the manifesto presented in Ottawa to take, over the country,, innocent citizens of Ottawa held to constant abuses 24/7 for 3 weeks,, major commerce between US and Canada ground to a halt,, jobs of tax payers lost and the government of Canada does NOTHING?
Yes, Exactly. Glad we can agree that the problem is that the government of Canada did NOTHING of what they were obligated to do... by the fact that people called them out on their abuses of the people's basic rights... and by the fact in their "doing NOTHING"... Canada PROVED its lack of good faith... its lack of accountability... its lack of responsiveness to the demands of the people... proving its lack of legitimacy.
All Canada did... was rigidify its political posturing... to cement the divisions in place... while failing to address the legitimate concerns being expressed...
There is such a thing as protesting , not to the point of insurrection,,lobbying, backing strong voices that will push your agenda,,running for office …etc…
Sure, but, of course... all of the above depends on there being good faith... and when there is none ?
UnTrudeaux made that PERFECTLY obvious when saying "protest is OK, as long as you don't ask for change"... proving that there is no problem in Canada... other than the government being stupid...
Pretending that it is "the people" who have an obligation to "avoid insurrection" and prevent change rather than demand it where it is required... rather than the government being the one having the need to avoid it... not by sticking heads in the sand... but by LEGITIMATELY accommodating people's concerns, while correcting the errors being made by the government... that the protest are pointing out ?
So, you got that back asswards... in failing to recognize... who works for who... with that NOT being a divisible function based on ideology or party politics... as Canada's "leaders" now pretend to be legitimate.
OR JUST ROLL OVER AND LET HER ALL BURN DOWN.
That is one option... and it the government's obligation to avoid having become the preferable option.
And, we agree... in that... Canada has done NOTHING... of what they are supposed to do.
I expect it to end well in Canada as ,,emergencies act ,, and rule of law has prevailed .
LOL !! You are an idiot. The lack of "good faith" and the lack of legitimacy requires... that what "prevailed"... is not "the rule of law"... which requires legitimacy to exist... before "rule of law" can exist... without the law itself being unjust... and the reason that it becomes necessary...
Hopefully for U.S.too!!
Here, in spite of the election fraud and manipulation... and in spite of the deliberate suppression, not only of legitimacy in elections, but of free speech, and independent media speaking truth (the real sort, not the Soros brand, fostering left wing control of all speech... to enable capture and control) there has already been a correction, or corrections, made... or that have begun being made.
The point of LEGITIMATE elections... is that ONLY THAT avoids having the need to have revolutions... as the point of fraudulent elections... and tyrannical leaders... is that they REQUIRE them.
In the U.S., internet search is still "controlled" by a rogue political faction that are violating our basic rights in communication... in the suppression of free expression... information control... not only in "search"... ?
The Twitter Files... wow... proving its FAR, FAR WORSE than most people imagined...
Congressional hearing being held now... exposing only the ragged edge of "what was done"... not really yet delving into "whose plan that was"... "who coordinated to enable it"... "what crimes were committed"... or, "what should be done about it"...
Certainly it is increasingly obvious "where" it came from... or should be... as dating back to the subversion of "rule of law" by the capture and control of Justice... dating back to the Clinton administration. From that time... the electoral bias imposed by election fraud was "protected" from any preventive or punitive action... as remains true, today. But, even that has failed to prevent people "figuring it out" and using votes to change things... in spite of the bias applied... ?
But, the corruption persists... so, as it is fatuous to presume a tyrannical act in Canada has "solved the problem"... so, here, it is presumptuous to assume the certainty of "victory"... at a level that forestalls the need for the revolution that will otherwise be made mandatory...
Today, the fraud of the January 6 protest being an "insurrection" rather than a false flag... is being exposed.
The illegitimate tenure of the left wing tyranny in the United States... has begun to crumble... as it cannot be sustained without control of free speech... and their attempt to control free speech has failed...
Perhaps Canada will figure out how to manage that transition, too... without actually needing guillotines ? |
