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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (196711)2/25/2023 1:43:13 AM
From: sense  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 219741
 
Well, if the U.S. / NATO are "cornering" Russia...

Shouldn't they be doing it IN Russia ?

And, shouldn't the Russians be IN Russia, too... being cornered, there ?

The glaring weakness in yours... that makes you as blind as everyone you criticize for being blind... is that while you CAN hear Biden talking about the pipeline... you PRETEND you can't, or don't hear Putin... when he's talking, just as openly, and brazenly, about his future plans for all the other neighbors...

I see ZERO evidence that anyone in the west has any interest in "invading" Russia...

And, in all probability, that only galls the Russians all the more... as it has throughout history, in their admiration and envy of the west... that the western half of Europe... really just don't give a shit about Russia... would be happy to pay it no attention... if only they could, as, unless and until Russia quits making threats, or going stupid and crossing borders... they can't.

The parallel in the U.S., would be... some future U.S. President deciding he has to take control of the northern half of Mexico... not because of the ongoing invasion of the U.S. emanating from there... (and, noting I see no parallel instance in which desperate Europeans are fighting their way east across wide expanses of desert trying to get into Russia) which would be wholly legitimate... but, instead, because we need that, and have a right to it, because of the "threat" posed to us by Nicaragua..

Russian's fixation would be EXACTLY THAT STUPID...

I see PLENTY of evidence that NONE of Russia's neighbors... want any Russians on the wrong side of Russia's borders...

ALL the evidence suggests the opposite... including, even those elements in which they (particularly Germany, again) are being stupid about how they address policy... instead of just coming out and speaking truths... That western Europeans are cowardly in the way they've approached the problem... of Russia being unwilling to stay inside Russia's own borders... doesn't make them responsible for Russians insanity.

Russian paranoia has convinced them that Russia, alone in the world, has some insane "right" to maintain "borders" that operate, on land, exactly like the 200nm exclusive economic zones operate in the sea... Only, of course, on land... those lands are not empty ocean over which they may have some presumptive interest... they are OTHER PEOPLES COUNTRIES... where Russia has NO LEGITIMATE PRESUMPTIVE INTEREST.

Other than your MASSIVE blind spot on that element in Russian history... including your blindness to what RUSSIANS SAY about what they intend to do today ? While it appears you've got a blind spot a mile wide on the issue of what and who is responsible...[ it NOT being the Hungarians who oppressed Russia, and put down the nascent emergence of freedom in Russia in 1956, for instance... rather than the Russian colonial occupation of Hungary that put down the 1956 Revolution... ]

Then, yeah,... you get some of the rest of that right... that Putin is to Europe what Napolean Bonaparte would have been if he had nuclear weapons...

The bet is obviously that Russia will simply roll over and unconditionally surrender.


Not what I see... It is obvious that the west have gone FAR out of their way to prevent the war doing anything more than killing Russians where there shouldn't be any.

The ONLY goal anyone appears to have... is for Russia to retreat back inside THEIR OWN borders... and stay there.

That's hardly asking too much...

However, it appears it just doesn't align with the Russians own view of what they should be expected to do...

So, the west has been enabling Ukraine in operating a VERY limited defense of their own country... which puts the Russians in the position of having to determine for themselves if it is worth expending themselves in the effort... and thus risk losing everything... as they fail, in result of their stupid miscalculations...

The "off guard" comments from western generals... pretty much say exactly that... that they intend to let Russia bleed themselves out... which they DO expect WILL happen... because they don't expect Russia to quit doing exactly what they are... leaning into the blade with their necks...

And, in that, it appears the west have made a far more perspicacious analysis of the Russians, than the Russians had made of Ukraine... or of their own capabilities...

Russia has no choice but to fight or be conquered



Ridiculous. Russia had no reason... much less a need... to attack Ukraine. And, tomorrow, they could quit fighting and return back inside Russia's borders... and that would be the end of it.

In having so badly misjudged the situation... and continuing to misjudge... Russia is conquering themselves...

And, that's not a good thing for global stability... but, its not like there's anything the west can or should do about it ?

Vladimir Putin years ago explained how military action is just mathematics = calculations lead to logical conclusions.

What a blithering idiot...The U.S. had a moron like that, too, once upon a time... in a Defense Secretary who thought the same, that by applying basic management principles... we could defeat Vietnam... if only our we ensured out production of bodies was sufficient...

But, even it you take Putin's stupidity at face value... its still obvious that for your calculations to lead to logical conclusions... you have to know what the inputs are... and what the operators are. What is indisputable... is that Putin calculated wrongly... about the inputs... the operators... and in every element in the conduct of the calculus...Russia got it wrong.

Putin sought to cement his legacy in history... and, in that he has succeeded... it's just not the legacy he was hoping for...

As an observer... when you see any poorly coached team... totally lacking in basic skills... making mistake, after mistake, and never correcting them... as totally lacking in leadership, or the ability to correct any of it... ?

You should expect "more of the same" in future proofs in performance... without first seeing some reason exists to expect improvement in performance.

And, in that... and what it seems is likely in result... I don't disagree with you...

It's been a stupid shit show thus far...

Which doesn't mean its not going to get VASTLY MORE stupid, with significantly larger turds being flung...

If the west resists... even only at the level they are now... there's no way for Putin to win... and no way for him to "improve"... given what's been lost that can't be replaced. But, there are still OBVIOUS ways for him to avoid losing... which absolutely no one is expecting him to take.

Putin's betters figured it out some years back, that... "when you find yourself in a hole, quit digging"...

Putin seems sure that the solution... was to climb out of that hole... and start digging another one.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (196711)2/25/2023 6:28:33 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 219741
 
Re <<Hopefully the Americans and Euroserfs don't choose to die in a ditch fighting a Russian bear that they provoked, prodded and prepared to attack and did attack via proxy attacks in Eastern Ukraine [and Nordstream and the Crimean bridge, Moldova, what have you].>>

To follow the competing script / clashing narratives, must get a Telegram account

... at some juncture testing time shall come, if not for one war then another, because warfare-ing domains must do as always did, presumably, for after a while they get good at getting into and out of wars
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BTW, unclear to me that the precious ammunition is expended w/ precision by both sides, unless one side intends to simply laundromat munitions for cash, and the other to cancel a domain by thuggish de-militarisation, if we take the MSM on both sides literally
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In the meantime the penny-packet dribble-feed of Leopard tanks into the Ukraine is leaking back out again if this report is verified that the initial packet leaking some back for repairs
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Sean Penn wants F16s sent
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An observation, Nato needs to put boots on the ground, and fast, else rug-pull consequences can be dire
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US embassy says 400,000 Ukrainian soldiers out of action, and if so, what is USA waiting for?
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At the same time the destroyed Russian tank on display in Berlin seems to have resulted in unintended
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Alexander von Bismarck, great-grandson of the famous Otto von Bismarck, the first chancellor of Germany, also came to the square with flowers. He called on the authorities to negotiate and reminded that no one needs a war with Russia, “Germans and Russians are not enemies”


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Some folks worried about Germany
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Italian port workers refusing to load military gear heading to Ukraines
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This scene might result in something during the coming election when Germany chooses
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Re <<Huns>>

... they appear to be already engaged on the battlefield (the Buryats are found on both sides of the Sino-Russian border)
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However we are told that the Buryats are helping to defend Donbass
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Re <<China>>
Unclear what the Nato strategy is, to cripple Germany in favour of China
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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (196711)2/25/2023 6:28:48 PM
From: TobagoJack1 Recommendation

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Re <<Hopefully the Americans and Euroserfs don't choose to die in a ditch fighting a Russian bear that they provoked, prodded and prepared to attack and did attack via proxy attacks in Eastern Ukraine [and Nordstream and the Crimean bridge, Moldova, what have you].>>

OTOH, Jeffrey describes your position if I am not misunderstanding him or you






OTOH, if what Fiona said is true, then there is another issue (at least Fiona backtracked on her take that the Russians blew up NS2 in the course of the video)


BTW, Re <<Made in China Rules>>
... as China zigs then zags, exercising seeming agility, and sporting apparent acuity, achieving the arguable but nevertheless arguably balance of casualties and economic improvement within the time allotted



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (196711)2/25/2023 6:29:01 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219741
 
Re <<swarms of people who can take whatever position they like>>

yes, swarms can, individuals not as much.

another one

bloomberg.com

Dilbert Comic Strip Dropped After Creator's Racial Remarks

26 February 2023 at 06:02 GMT+8



FLE - Scott Adams, creator of the comic strip Dilbert, in 2006.

Photographer: Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP PhotoTHE ASSOCIATED PRESS (DAVID A. LIEB)The creator of the Dilbert comic strip faced a backlash of cancellations Saturday while defending remarks describing people who are Black as members of “a hate group” from which white people should “get away.”

Various media publishers across the U.S. denounced the comments by Dilbert creator Scott Adams as racist, hateful and discriminatory while saying they would no longer provide a platform for his work.

Andrews McMeel Syndication, which distributes Dilbert, did not immediately respond Saturday to requests for comment. But Adams defended himself on social media against those whom he said "hate me and are canceling me.”

Dilbert is a long-running comic that pokes fun at office-place culture.

The backlash began following an episode this past week of the YouTube show, “Real Coffee with Scott Adams.” Among other topics, Adams referenced a Rasmussen Reports survey that had asked whether people agreed with the statement “It's OK to be white."

Most agreed, but Adams noted that 26% of Black respondents disagreed and others weren't sure.

The Anti-Defamation League says the phrase was popularized in 2017 as a trolling campaign by members of the discussion forum 4chan but then began being used by some white supremacists.

Adams, who is white, repeatedly referred to people who are Black as members of a “hate group” or a “racist hate group” and said he would no longer “help Black Americans."

“Based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from Black people,” Adams said on his Wednesday show.

In another episode of his online show Saturday, Adams said he had been making a point that “everyone should be treated as an individual” without discrimination.

"But you should also avoid any group that doesn’t respect you, even if there are people within the group who are fine,” Adams said.

The San Antonio Express-News, which is part of Hearst Newspapers, said Saturday that it will drop the Dilbert comic strip, effective Monday, “because of hateful and discriminatory public comments by its creator.”

The USA Today Network tweeted Friday that it also will stop publishing Dilbert "due to recent discriminatory comments by its creator.”

The Plain Dealer in Cleveland and other publications that are part of Advance Local media also announced that they are dropping Dilbert.

“This is a decision based on the principles of this news organization and the community we serve,” wrote Chris Quinn, editor of The Plain Dealer. '"We are not a home for those who espouse racism. We certainly do not want to provide them with financial support."

Christopher Kelly, vice president of content for NJ Advance Media, wrote that the news organization believes in “the free and fair exchange of ideas.”

“But when those ideas cross into hate speech, a line must be drawn,” Kelly wrote.