To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (196788 ) 2/28/2023 5:50:31 PM From: sense Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217651 Twitter .. made in America.. as I said hard to avoid porn.. . I've never had a problem avoiding that... Not on Twitter... never have been... have filters set to avoid getting there accidentally... or, them getting to me... and have to deliberately lower them to see anything... which I mostly refuse to do... US is so successfully propagandized.. EVERYONE is so successfully propagandized... only a matter of degree. Not exactly the case that we're blinded from seeing reality, here... but people in Russia and China see truth clearly... because of the lack of filters ? LOL!!! bombs drop from the US irrespective of who is in charge. . Who gets elected in the US... does nothing much to alter the nature of the conflicts that exist between US interests and others ? It does often alter "how" those differences are addressed... but, I don't think you should expect to see any difference in "who gets elected"... doing much in changing what the national interest is deemed to be ? Change Xi out for brand Y tomorrow... and, how will that alter the issues that China has to address ? Change UnTrudeaux out tomorrow, and... OK... got me there... he's just making stuff up as he goes... Far more likely that "perceived difference" will induce errors outside... as perception of weakness (Biden) or strength (Trump) alters others choices (Putin) more than it alters American interests ? But... it still "tends" to be true that Democrats start wars, and Republicans finish them... Kennedy and Johnson started Vietnam... Nixon ended it... but, somehow... it was the Democrats who were "opposed to the war" by then... as Republican's were made responsible... for the policies Democrats imposed... then blistered for "not fixing it fast enough" ? LOL !!! The difference in posture is real... Saddam crossed Bush's red lines... and see what happened ? And, when Obama's "red line" in Syria was crossed ? Obama "leading from behind" in Europe... is what led to Germany determining policy re Ukraine... "let's lie to them as we..." being both a failure of American leadership... and the failure you should expect from European leadership. Democrats "self loathing" re themselves being Americans... has them often fawning over Europe's views... while Republicans tend to reflect what those Americans... who don't give a shit about what Europeans think... think for themselves. Bush... engineered the soft landing at the end of the Cold War. Obama... laid the foundations for the shit show we see going on in Europe today... So, if that's "no difference"... perhaps your perceptitrometer needs adjustment.the world does NOT SEE A DIFFERENCE GOP DEM only you guys do :) Hmmm. That's a double edged truth... I think its the same everywhere... If you're not in tune to the nuance of local evolution in politics... its hard to see the point of getting riled up about it... as often happens. But, "team sports" is what it is, everywhere... I find Canada's politics is often indecipherable and pointless... with a lot of grandstanding on BS that appears to make no real difference, from perspective here... which still has gg going full Trumptard in thinking the latest BS that the UnTrudeuxians just did... "changed everything" and now "its all over". LOL !!! if the divisions in a culture were as large as they're postured to be in "team sports"... you'd never have peace... and, when they become that large in fact... you don't. Politics is the game of crafting divisions to exploit... whether they're real, whether they reallyr matter, or not... just about the game... which is easier to see in a sport you don't care about, than in one you do ? And, the "teams" change positions all the time... totally reverse "what they stand for"... without anyone really noticing ? Canadians can't see how totally insane they appear to Americans... and think that means the problem has to be us ? Lots of people here understand the "no difference between the parties" meme as a "truth"... in particular things... which mostly means... the equal opportunity corruption of the politicians by the money interest... with the money interest always appearing to get their way, no matter how either party postures in opposition to one or another of big money's interests, or projects... I understand Katie Hobbs will be arranging to teach a class on that at the University of Arizona's FCI Phoenix branch... timing TBD... but, that might not be coming from her office, so best to check with her. Republican's (voters) have been voting since the 1950's to "roll back socialism"... while the reality is that the steady march of socialism in the U.S. has encountered very little real resistance... until at the point it begins killing the economy... and running out of other people's money to spend. At the same time, people assume (as successfully propagandized) that "money interest" means "conservative CEO's and bankers"... when reality is the opposite. In result... there is a difference in what we're offered... and in what we vote for... just not in what we get... which is all "moving the same way"... the only difference being in "how fast"... Although, on other things... it still matters... where it is not anything the "money interest" cares about... save in fostering the division, or the perception of it mattering... for their own purposes. And, much of the rest is "intentional design" in the political framework... that makes change hard. Abortion is one of those issues that people care about, often passionately... simmering for decades... where strategic "voting" sustained over time... has made change happen... in the way it is intended to happen here... painfully slowly... only after long sustained effort... as validating broad societal agreement on a need for change, rather than constant radical flip flops... as often seen elsewhere. Similarly, "civil rights" took decades to happen... didn't occur automatically with the end of slavery... but, that not meaning it was an issue with "no difference" that mattered in the outcome. So, maybe a timing issue to consider... in which expectations re the pace of change that is likely... are likely to be wrong... thus also missing what does matter in the more glacial pace... that has change that is occurring being overlooked.