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To: Ferick who wrote (8778)	2/13/1998 11:30:00 AM
From: Charles A. King	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13091

Off topic ... While the attention of the public and news media is focussed on gossiping about the President's sexcapades, the real scandal is this nations' foreign policy, especially in the Arab world. Everybody wants the USA to end the suffering of the Iraqi people by "taking out" Saddam and saving everybody from the threat of his mass destruction capabilities. Everybody should realize that the only way to do that would be for troops to go over the entire country of Iraq inch by bloody inch, and hunt him down. The American people won't do that because they were cured of that forever by Johnson's Vietnam policy. The media's tapes of scuds supposedly being blown out of the sky by our missiles and by showing enemy buildings being blown up by smart bombs are supposed to make us believe that the basic rules of war have been changed somehow. I worked on smart bomb technology and on IFF. IFF means Identify Friend or Foe, and what we designed to fit into fighter aircraft could easily have been put on tanks and personnel carriers as well. There was absolutely no reason for us to kill our own people by accident. The people in charge of procurement just didn't give a damn. There is a movie called "Wag the Dog" which I guess is where a fictional president gets caught with his pants down and has a war invented to take the public's attention away from his personal scandal. Our real life situation is exactly the opposite. Here we have everybody's attention rivetted to Lewinsky/Jones/Flowers/Willey and so on and so forth, on and on, while the real disgrace to our country and to the extreme danger of our armed forces is in the way our Middle East policy is carried out. I have been watching the story of the latest invasion of Iraq by Turkey. Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, and Tom Brokaw never mention that, do they? Here we have two of our potential allies fighting among themselves because the Turks aren't invading Iraq to help us, they are there to fight the Kurds. The Kurds in the north of Iraq and the Shiites in the south would like nothing better than to get rid of Saddam. Why has the US government under both Democrats and Republicans refused to support the Iraqi opposition? The Iraqi army consisting of demoralized conscripts could easily be defeated by these fierce enemies of the Iraqi monster. All we would have to do is recognize them as the legitimate successors to Saddam, turn them loose, and send a few missiles into any tanks that come out to meet them. Instead the CIA eggs them on until they come out expecting our support, and the Iraqi army mows them down. Exactly the way Kennedy handled the Bay of Pigs and the way Eisenhower handled the Hungarians. The Saudis and other countries in the region can see our perfidy and dishonor with crystal clarity. They are now making other plans among themselves while the Russians, who already are owed $8 billion dollars by the Iraqis, are helping Saddam by assisting in building his mass killing capabilities. The French and Red Chinese are also helping because that is the way they are. I have no idea how this is going to play out, but I am willing to live with low energy prices if it keeps a million people from being killed. On the other hand, we have our own government working on increasing the price of oil by doing what they do. OK, I'll stop. Charles

To: Ferick who wrote (8778)	2/13/1998 11:34:00 AM
From: John B. Ray	Respond to of 13091

Ned, Sounds great! Put together a good business plan then round up some investors. It seems like there would be quite a few deep pocketed GRNO investor's that wouldn't mind hedging their bets. They have already done enough DD to feel good about the business and firm order would do wonders for their stock investment. Wishful Thinking, jray

To: Ferick who wrote (8778)	2/13/1998 11:35:00 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13091

<<I am seeing pump prices declining. This surely includes the price of #2. The effect will suppress the need or want for units.>> Ned, I've been watching the futures price for light crude and #2 heating oil (which closely tracks the price for #2 diesel. If you look at the charts for both of these commodities, I believe you are seeing the formation of a double bottom in the markets which should lead to future upside. As for suppressing the need or want for units, I think that this argument is completely without merit. As you likely know, there are many locations in the US where waste oil collection is subsidized by State monies or through handling charges when you get your oil changed. Additionally, a potential customer has to look at the current operational data based on current permitted capacity and then multiply this by a factor of 4 or 5 (800-1000gph). Currently all operational costs and manpower costs are being expensed based upon production of 200 gph of #2 diesel. If the processor is operating at breakeven or a slight loss at current capicities, then higher operational levels will equate to profits applying directly to the bottom line. Thus, due to governmental obstacles, the LP processor is forced to operate at a loss (more public market inefficiencies... :0). It is in no way indicative of the potential profitiability of a fully permitted processor operating at close to full capacity. Finally, we must also consider the additional variables driving this technology and that would be ever more strict EPA air quality standards that are causing potential customers to seek cleaner forms of fuel than #4 fuel oil or even lower grades. According to the posts by Charles King as well as my own research on the issue, Turkey has an attrocious air quality problem. It also suffers an energy deficit. Both of these factors are quite likely driving MANOVA to take advantage of what GRNO has to offer. I see no slackening of orders once the first couple of customers have their processors installed and operational and I see a significant backlog developing based upon the demonstrable technology. Just my humble opinion. Regards, Ron