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To: ratlong who wrote (2164)2/13/1998 6:58:00 PM
From: Hans-Erik Eriksson  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 3115
 
Trevor,

> OO is a fundamental shift in the way analysts, designers,
> developers, testers, documenters and managers all look at
> software development. People claim they do OO, but more
> often than not, it is a farse. I think mentoring, training
> and standardized processes must be present to get people up
> to speed in OO. The majority of programmers are lost without
> mentoring, training and hand holding- products must start
> addressing this.

Couldn't agree more.

Trevor, or others, some thing I've noticed when attending conferences in the US is that there is a very high concentration on tools (development environments but also CASE tools). Not saying tools are unimportant, but what about the interest in processes("methods") such as ObjectOry ? Is there a real interest in that kind of products / are US companies starting to look at those issues ?

/Hans-Erik



To: ratlong who wrote (2164)2/27/1998 5:36:00 AM
From: Thomas Haegin  Respond to of 3115
 
Trevor and thread, sorry to check in only now. What a nice post from Trevor of 02/13 being back from SD West. I stll need to catch up with the rest of the messages, posting along the way.

Thanks Trevor for your support of this thread,
Thomas