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To: pocotrader who wrote (1400893)

4/28/2023 1:15:14 PM

From: Broken_Clock

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To: pocotrader who wrote (1400833)	4/28/2023 3:58:50 AM
From: Broken_Clock	of 1400894

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-the-us-really-bombed-hiroshima/ The top American military leaders who fought World War II, much to the surprise of many who are not aware of the record, were quite clear that the atomic bomb was unnecessary, that Japan was on the verge of surrender, and—for many—that the destruction of large numbers of civilians was immoral. Most were also conservatives, not liberals. Adm. William Leahy, Truman’s chief of staff, wrote in his 1950 memoir I Was There that “the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.… In being the first to use it, we…adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.” The commanding general of the US Army Air Forces, Henry “Hap” Arnold, gave a strong indication of his views in a public statement 11 days after Hiroshima was attacked. Asked on August 17 by a New York Times reporter whether the atomic bomb caused Japan to surrender, Arnold said that “the Japanese position was hopeless even before the first atomic bomb fell, because the Japanese had lost control of their own air.” “It was a mistake.... [the scientists] had this toy and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it.” —Adm. William “Bull” Halsey Fleet Adm. Chester Nimitz, the commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet, stated in a public address at the Washington Monument two months after the bombings that “the atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military standpoint, in the defeat of Japan.” Adm. William “Bull” Halsey Jr., the commander of the US Third Fleet, stated publicly in 1946 that “the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment…. It was a mistake to ever drop it…. [The scientists] had this toy, and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it…” Gen. Dwight Eisenhower stated in his memoirs that when notified by Secretary of War Henry Stimson of the decision to use atomic weapons, he “voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives.” He later publicly declared, “It wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing.” Even the famous hawk Maj. Gen. Curtis LeMay, the head of the Twenty-First Bomber Command, went public the month after the bombing, telling the press that “the atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.”

To: pocotrader who wrote (1400893)	4/28/2023 1:45:01 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Recommended By pocotrader Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574848

Pocotrader, he would have liked a trump type POTUS in ww2. if that were the case, we would all be speaking German and Japanese today. Perhaps, but in the case of "bomb vs. invade," it was clear to most people that a full-scale invasion of Japan would have cost MANY more lives than the two atomic bombs. Broken Cuck, however, pretends that Japan was this close to surrendering, and that the nukes were completely unnecessary. And to prove it, he and his fellow historical revisionists point to a few officials back then who opposed the use of the bomb, then pretend that they represented the "majority" opinion. All of that flies in the face of every observation made about Japanese soldiers, who were fiercely devoted to their cause. It was reasonable to assume that they would do everything they could to defend their own homeland from foreign invaders. Today, Japan is pacifistic, but their culture still reflects a strong devotion toward shared values that are unique to the Japanese people. Even today, they are hesitant to acknowledge how evil and brutal their brief flirtation with imperialism turned out to be, because shame is still a thing in their society. Tenchusatsu P.S. - Said a Japanese citizen today, "What do you think we would have done had we got the bomb first?"