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To: TobagoJack who wrote (198640)5/8/2023 10:37:15 AM
From: ggersh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218199
 
May 9th, VE day in parts of Europe and Russia.

Why is it that people in europe and Russia celebrate
a day that ended war while in the west we don't?

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5/8 - VE Day Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 05/08/2023 - 5:00am

~~ VE Day (Hamilton)


Today is VE Day (in Europe), or so I'm told. It commemorates the effective date, from central European time westward, of Germany's surrender in WWII. It seems that it is still celebrated in at lest some parts of Europe. This would make some sense, since it ended the war in Europe. (East of the central European time zone, Victory Day is still celebrated, reflecting the fact that by the effective date in the central European time zone, it was already a day later further east.)

I recall that VE day was also celebrated in the US during my childhood, but not whether is was a paid holiday or a Sunday holiday. Ditto VJ Day celebrating Japan's surrender in WWII. VJ Day appears to have been a paid holiday and at least one source holds that to be the reason it was cancelled. In any case, neither is celebrated here anymore, which makes a lot of sense.

We are a warfare state, so celebrating peace is a ludicrous proposition. Before that, we were a garrison state for a while, though I suspect that they are but two sides of the same coin. The last time I can be certain that we celebrated peace of any kind was the 1953 celebration of Armistice Day, which we converted into in 1954. 1954 was an auspicious year for that conversion in that it was the year in which we used CIA operatives to surreptitiously fly supplies to the French at the Battle of Dien Bien Phu, which they lost, ending their dream of forcibly reinstating their colony in Vietnam and starting our covert and eventually overt war to prevent free elections from occurring there. Yes, we talk up democracy, but we don't like it, because too often people we don't like win elections, and then we have to take them out, like Mossadegh or Allende. We prefer people like Shah Reza Pahlavi, General Pinochet, Franco, Trujillo, Batista, Duvalier (pick one), Idi Amin, Ngô Ðình Di?m, or Nguy?n Cao K?. We can work with those folks. At any rate, war, endless war, covert, overt, or proxy, is what we do, that and sell weapons of war. Needless to say, we do not celebrate peace, peace accords, peace treaties, or anything remotely of that kind. That would just be too stupid.