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To: pat mudge who wrote (3061)	2/13/1998 8:24:00 PM
From: JMD	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6180

Pat, a great, comprehensive answer--more than I could have asked for. Thank you. By the way, while others may download playboy centerfolds, I only read the editorial content which in addition to improving my mind unburdens the bandwidth, you know cause text doesn't need as much as all those nasty graphics (graphical?) files, but I suspect you're right--god only knows what my next door neighbor may be doing. heh, heh, heh When you have the time, I'd also love to know how some signals can always be 'on'--like cable and broadcast tv while others require you to establish a connection like my beloved AOL (not). Obviously always on is massively more convenient but why doesn't that just suck up beaucoup de bandwidth? Sorry, but you're dealing with one of life's more technically challenged children here. Kind regards, Mike Doyle

To: pat mudge who wrote (3061)	2/14/1998 9:20:00 PM
From: SteveG	Respond to of 6180

<..Cable is shared bandwidth...> Shared just as on a LAN, with the bandwidth that is shared being ~10Mbps. <..your speeds could become unacceptably slow..> Cables (such as Cox) are guaranteeing a MINIMUM of 1.5Mbps, and are averaging (95+%) >3Mbps. IF you (and the others in your "line") get consistently lower speeds than the minimum (for more than a week) and it's not the result of some line-specific reparable problem, then another T3 to your neighborhood is pulled off cable's OC3, effectively doubling everyone on your "line's" bandwidth. <..And because it's shared, cable is also insecure. An amateur hacker could break into your files and do whatever hackers do...> Whereas some of these noises have been made previously, this is NOT currently the case (according to experts in the field, recently). First, simply not switching on your operating system's "file sharing" capabilities is a first line of prevention. Secondly, local filters are being installed. Third, encryption is becoming standard. <..In addition, older cable lines don't have two-way capacity and will require a phone line for upstream transmission...> Besides being addressed pretty aggressively by the cables, this is pretty much a non-issue in comparing to ADSL service, which really doesn't exist. <ADSL...will be attractive because of the quality of service they provide. The bandwidth will not be shared and access will be secure...> Of course, this will be dependant on IF you can get an ADSL line, and if you do, that it will work. Even Microsoft employees on their dedicated trial test lines with propietary equipment and with the help of dedicated ADSL engineers, reported having significant problems with ADSL. Beware the lowly telco customer dealing with an ignorant, monolithic beaurocracy ("..easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle...") <..Also, it's "always on" --- 24-hours a day...> So is cable. <..once DSL is deployed, I suspect it'll be the preferred service. At that point I don't think price will be a differentiator...> Most agree that ADSL won't begin any kind of widespread rollout (in the areas where it will even work, which currently would NOT be over an undetermined 25-40% of the existing US copper plant) until into the millenium. The unresolved standards issues and technical challenges of ADSL beyond OSI layer one (explicitly, layers 2 through 6, which includes integration of ATM and use of PPP protocols) has recently been acknowledged as significant, even by Amati's Steenburgen. Message 3371327 <..cable is targetted to the residential market because many business environments aren't wired, and ADSL to the business market because copper's already there and they'll be more likely to pay the early-adapter prices...> First, for businesses watch out for the continued adoption of Paradyne's HotWire MVL (multiple virtual line). This offers fully configurable 768kbps (more than the net will probably support for many years). This means 768 downstream for webpage viewing. Or 768kbps upstream for web broadcasting. Or 384kbps symetrical for videoconferencing. Also, it will support up to 8 data nodes on a single DSL line. But the clincher for business is that it will ALSO support up to 8 muxed nodes for pairgain voice. At what price? $150/modem and $40/month. That's 1/3 a muxed T1/HDSL on a single pair for 1/30 the monthly cost. At reaches of up to 24K. But the REAL killer for business bandwidth will be fixed "fiber wireless" such as with WCII, where a small to medium sized enterprise can get an OC3 (155Mbps) equivalent for a significant savings over actual fiber. <..People warned me RBOCs were slow but I had no idea what that meant. I guess I thought it was like pulling building permits at the City Hall. Agonizing but in the realm of days and perhaps months but not years..> But Pat, we explained to you MANY times EXACTLY what that meant. Don't you remember your continued adamant arguing (in the Amati thread) that our warnings were incorrect and ill-founded, even to the point of calling us ignorant, dishonest and shortsellers?