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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (1405526)	6/9/2023 3:46:54 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Recommended By pocotrader Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576434

How to spot Bullshishka: Did HIMARS eventually lead to the failure of the Kakhovka dam? The Z-trolls are amplifying a passage from a story that was recently published by Democracy Dies In Darkness: ***** Blast hits hydro-electric plant and dam, flooding south Ukraine - The Washington Post On one occasion, as Ukrainian forces plotted a counteroffensive in the Kherson region, they conducted a test strike using an American-provided HIMARS rocket launcher to puncture three holes in one of the floodgates of the Kakhovka dam. Maj. Gen. Andriy Kovalchuk, who led the Kherson offensive, told The Washington Post late last year that the goal was to see if the water level of the Dnieper River could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages. The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but commanders decided to hold off on such an operation. *** Amplification And there you have it. All the Z-trolls, including Basement Qarlson, are shouting "HIMARS HIMARS HIMARS" at the top of their lungs. They point to that report from Democracy Dies In Darkness because that's one of the favorite plays of the Kremlin propaganda playbook. Anytime a Western media source confirms a fact that supports the Kremlin narrative, amplify it like crazy. Ignore all the other facts. Ignore logical inconsistencies like why Ukraine would want to flood their own lands. Ignore patterns of behavior like RuZZia's targeting of Ukraine's civilian infrastructure. Just spam the forums and repeat yourself over and over again. This fits right into the three steps of Kremlin disinformation campaigns: - Step 1: Seeding - Step 2: Harvesting - Step 3: Amplification We're already on step 3 now. Those Pesky Facts But let's look at the visual evidence, courtesy of Ryan McBeth on YouTube who purchased satellite images in order to produce the following video: On November 10, 2022, there is spillage on the Ukrainian side of the dam, but that looks controlled and not due to any leakage caused by holes in the flood gate. On March 2, 2023, someone destroyed the bridge deck on the Ukrainian side. This was likely done by RuZZia in order to prevent Ukrainians from crossing the dam. Also on that day, there is no more spillage on the Ukrainian side. However, there is spillage on the RuZZian side. So we know that whatever spillage was happening on the Ukrainian side was fixed, but the spillage on the RuZZian side started happening. Fast-forward to June 1, 2023. The spillage on the RuZZian side is continuing, but now there is evidence of "overtopping," which shouldn't happen if the spillways are properly controlled. Shortly after this, the dam breaks. The Dots Don't Connect So what does this tell us? It tells us that, if HIMARS caused any of the spillage on the Ukrainian side of the dam, that spillage was stopped months ago. Or if HIMARS caused any of the spillage on the RuZZian side, the results didn't show up until March of this year. That contradicts what was reported by Democracy Dies In Darkness, where Ukraine claimed the HIMARS strike was a "success." How would Ukraine know if the results didn't show up until months after the strike? Those Pesky Physics In any case, it's clear that HIMARS doesn't have nearly enough explosive power to bring down an entire dam. And even in the report by Democracy Dies In Darkness, Ukraine's goal was to control water levels on the Dnipro river, NOT blow up an entire dam. That directly contradicts the PooTin cucks who claimed that Ukraine really did want to blow up the whole dam thing. But could that HIMARS strike have led to structural failures that eventually led to the dam's collapse? It's possible, but is it probable? Not likely based on the photographic evidence. Otherwise, a single point of failure would have been apparent in the photos, and the photos would have shown evidence that the point got worse and worse over time. Jumping to Conclusions** But even the possibility (however unlikely) that the HIMARS strike led to structural failures doesn't prove the Z-trolls to be correct. There is no sufficient proof one way or the other to conclude anything. On the other hand, the very tendency of the Z-trolls to instantly jump to conclusions itself is Bullshishka. Tenchusatsu