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To: carranza2 who wrote (199739)	6/22/2023 8:22:12 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217739

… is why Team Xi was not and remains uninterested to engage with yet another prospective lame duck. A pity and time is going to waste when so much good might be done.

To: carranza2 who wrote (199739)	6/22/2023 7:30:42 PM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 217739

Re <<I understand that the Chinese must consider that Biden’s actions are scripted, i.e., calling Xi a dictator after Blinken’s candid discussions. There is another interpretation that the Chinese should consider, namely, that Biden is a gaffe machine. His capacity for doing the dumb, impromptu thing is legendary.>> Hi C2, (1) I totally understand what you said, and I hope the Chinese would consider Biden as a 'gaffe machine', but, as in alas I think the situation is unstable and destabilising, such that two other possibilities come to front of mind, especially as people-to-people exchanges is deliberately and sharply reduced, whether by geopolitics, pandemics, or economic cost as inflation rages, and they are ... (1-i) Team China at the highest levels take Team USA words at face value, as all nation-state-domain relationship words ought to be taken, and / or (1-ii) Team China attributes to Neo-China-Hawk what Team Russia attributed and attributing to Neo-Russia-Hawk, namely visceral ill will against China, history, vector, and dream. (2) I believe Team China's words must and best be taken at face value, namely ... (2-i) Taiwan Taiwan Taiwan reunification is not negotiable and is an internal affair (2-ii) China shall mind own business and keep out of other folks businesses (2-iii) China not interested in block-geopolitics (2-iv) China not interested in de-seating USA and its Dollar, but shall continue to rise and use own currency (2-v) USA + China would be better than USA / China, for all concerned (2-vi) China wishes to cooperate, surely on climate this and whatever that, but also on fusion energy, space exploration, AI, multi-pole and multilateral world peace, etc etc etc, and bio everything - all issues taken off of the table by Team USA. Precious time wasted. (3) Specific to the Biden / Blinken show, I think Alex below summed up well even if I might by nitpick disagree with perhaps 3% of his remarks 43min mark 1 hour 1 min mark 50min 50 sec mark I give Biden the benefit of doubt for folks in E Asia generally tend to defer to seniors by age such, per hope for the best (4) China has a few imperatives, in order of priority given distance from solutions before the Ukraine kinetics, namely - energy, food, dollar, and semiconductors. Thanks to Team USA, energy and food are no longer potentially burning issues Thanks to same USA, Dollar issue is dissolving quickly enough Thanks to same same USA, semiconductor issue is working itself out Essentially, supposedly by 2049, but am guessing by 2030, China imperative would be potentially just one, how to get to Mars by first stabilising the Moon and cislunar space, and with whose help. However / and therefore, recommendation remains as before: GetMoreGold bloomberg.com Biden Says Dictator Remark About Xi Hasn’t Undermined Ties US president made off-the-cuff remark to Democratic donors China criticized Biden’s comments, calling them provocative Jenny Leonard 23 June 2023 at 02:38 GMT+8 President Biden speaks during a joint press conference in the East Room of the White House on June 22. Photographer: Al Drago/BloombergPresident Joe Biden said his remarks referring to Chinese leader Xi Jinping as a dictator haven’t undermined efforts to shore up strained relations between the world’s two largest economies. “I expect to be meeting with President Xi sometime in the future, the near term and I don’t think it’s had any real consequence,” Biden said in a joint press conference on Thursday with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi at the White House. WATCH: President Joe Biden say his remarks referring to Chinese leader Xi Jinping as a dictator haven’t “had any real consequence.” Source: Bloomberg Biden made the off-the-cuff remark about Xi at a donor event on Tuesday, saying the Chinese leader was embarrassed by his military sending an alleged spy balloon across the US without his knowledge. “That’s what’s a great embarrassment for dictators, when they didn’t know what happened,” said Biden. Read more: Biden’s ‘Dictator’ Xi Riff Undercuts Painstaking China Diplomacy China immediately hit back at Biden’s comments, calling them provocative. On Thursday, Chinese embassy spokesman Liu Pengyu said the remarks were “erroneous, absurd and irresponsible” and that Chinese Ambassador to the US Xie Feng had protested the remarks to senior White House officials and the US State Department. “We urge the US side to immediately take earnest actions to undo the negative impact and honor its own commitments. Otherwise, it will have to bear all the consequences,” Liu said. The Biden administration had insisted there was no reason for the president to clarify his statement and that the US would always be forthright and blunt when talking about its differences with China. The timing of Biden’s remark was noteworthy as it came while US Secretary of State Antony Blinken was still on his way back from Beijing where he engaged in two days of carefully choreographed diplomacy that appeared to decrease tensions between the countries. “The idea of my choosing and avoiding saying what I think is the facts with regard to the relationship with China is just not something I’m going to change very much,” said Biden on Thursday. “Secretary Blinken had a great trip to China,” he added. Blinken’s talks didn’t yield any major breakthroughs and more importantly, did not result in a resumption of military-to-military communications. Still both sides said Blinken had made progress in normalizing relations and the secretary of state also met with Xi. Biden and Xi are set to talk by phone at some point and the two will have an opportunity to meet at the Group of 20 leaders’ summit in India in September. — With assistance by Jacob Gu and Justin Sink (Updates with additional quotes, background from fifth paragraph)