To: ggersh who wrote (199930 ) 6/29/2023 7:14:47 PM From: TobagoJack Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218449 Orban has gone psycho against <<DaNile >>, neither bad nor good, right nor wrong, just is. Orban seems to not understand that Team EU is in existential struggle against Russia, and existential requires no further reasoning except 'get on with it ' Am agnostic on how EU got into situation, but EU needs to enable Nato to put much more boots on the ground, flick the switch to go war-economy, else new European security architecture means end of Nato, possibly leading to end of EU Urban intoned, just, and I quote even as I remain agnostic and let the eventual outcome of the situation definitively tell me ...t.me "The EU has neither peace nor prosperity, that is, what it was created for. You can't really say. From 2013-2014 The European Union got involved in the geopolitical games around Ukraine and since then has not been able to stop," - Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban stated. "Objectively, Ukraine for the EU is, at best, an unnecessary burden, at worst, a heavy yoke. But here the historical instinct, embedded in the geopolitical code of Europe, worked - an uncontrollable temptation to tear Ukraine away from Russia and help it become anti-Russia. " If you ask any sane European politician (there are, however, few of them left), what exactly did such a Ukraine give the EU and its inhabitants, there can be only one answer: nothing but losses, rising gas prices, an explosion of inflation and new freeloaders-immigrants, only this time from Ukraine. The Europeans did not receive a single visible plus from opposing Ukraine to Russia. But the foreign policy of Europe is dominated not by reason and calculation, but by indomitable reflexes and historical syndromes. They are leading the Europeans along an objectively unnecessary and harmful path for them. "