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To: Jeff Fox who wrote (28480)	2/15/1998 12:53:00 AM
From: Ali Chen	Respond to of 1572507

Jeff, <bashed Intel for overpricing chips. It is amusing to now read sudden criticism of "dumping" due to too low a price!> What is really amusing is not to be amused about the size of this chip (450mm2). This fact apparently escaped your attention (due to your over-amusement or your unfamiliarity with the economics of silicon manufacturing).

To: Jeff Fox who wrote (28480)	2/15/1998 1:22:00 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572507

<Or perhaps: 1. Intel has competitively dense gate array technology> Perhaps they do, but the post I was responding to claimed a large die size ~450 sq mm and 50% wasted gates. If this is correct then it would make sense to convert to standard cell. <2. The planned product lifetimes will be very short as Intel evolves 3D to dramatically higher performance levels. (The words Portola and Whitney cross my mind).> I have not seen Intel confirm these projects exist, so who's to say how long the i740 will exist as a stand alone product. How about a shrink to .25u as more capacity comes on line? Are they pad constrained? I wouldn't expect Intel to leave anything on a gate array for long if there are 50% wasted gates and high volume. EP