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To: Alomex who wrote (8529)	2/15/1998 10:57:00 PM
From: soup	Respond to of 213177

Here's what could happen if Microsoft loses the case. via LANTimes >In short, if the Department of Justice wins its case, the only thing it will accomplish is to accelerate the transition from Windows to Windows NT and Windows CE. That seems to be what Microsoft has been planning anyway. Finally, this might explain the rather odd behavior of the Microsoft lawyers in the case. I suspect that Gates' final instruction to them was something like this: "Go out and fight as hard as you can. Just make sure you lose."< lantimes.com Comments?

To: Alomex who wrote (8529)	2/16/1998 12:33:00 PM
From: Doren	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

Alomex, Your right about NT taking off. However, not everyone is happy with the system. Our guy at UCLA has our system running relatively smoothly. But even then when I use the system I reboot regularly, if I don't I get the inevitable 'out of memory' response. I get that message even when I'sm only running a text editor on a computer with 256M of Ram. This could be due to software memory leakage and or NT. My girlpal works at a huge aerospace company in Long Beach. Her divisions experience has been different. She says their NT system crashes several times DAILY. This has been going on for a year. It drives them all nuts. Imagine how their customers feel. They call up and can't fill an order because "computer is down". Several times a day! Imagine how the white shirts view this. They are paying millions a year for people who are sitting around doing nothing because the server is down. This administrator is in big trouble for recommending NT over UNIX. These are the types of companies Rhapsody will make its initial inroads in. Remember it will run on Intel machines. Additionally, there is still a large installed base of engineers and designers who love and use Macs at work. These types are real loyal and know their hardware/software. The latest issue of NASA's 'Tech Briefs' (magazine) has a Mac on the cover. In the Hollywood Imaging community the buzz is that they tried NT, it didn't work and now no one is using it seriously anymore. This suprised me. Titanic was made using Digital Alphas mostly, probably running UNIX. Of course the High end stuff is still done on SGIs. Most Hollywood people us Macs at home, and use SGIs at work because they have to. Rhapsody has a chance here also. All it will take is for one important vendor of high end software to port. There are several, Quantel, Wavefront, 3D Studio Max. Lightwave has already ported but is not quite important to lure the rest. (Wintels are of course used in their accounting and sales divisions.) Doren

To: Alomex who wrote (8529)	2/16/1998 3:24:00 PM
From: Phillip C. Lee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

Alomex, Take Federal Government's DoD alone, based on articles, Sun's Solaris has been in the major servers, networks, worth billions of dollars, HP-UX was the second position. Other agencies, like NASA, NOAA, DOT etc., there are billions of worth of Sun Solaris, HP-UX. Small projects they would probably use NT. NT probably is a good OS in small to mid-size software, but when dealing with hugh data, Unix is still number 1. I posted early before based on their percentages, and believe my data is correct. I wish Microsoft has more percentage, but the constraint on NT is its platform - Intel chips and its software. C, C++, Ada are used on Unix platforms rather than NT, and most of these languages are used to develop scientific/engineering application software. I don't think NT could break 10% of total workstations sold in enterprise. Like I said before, Army ordered 200m+ of Sun Solaris from open bids a couple of years ago. Similar orders have been requested by other agencies. Unfortunately, I haven't seen a big order of NT servers from Federal Government. You have to realize that 100% of college graduates majoring in science, engineering, and computer are all fluent in Unix systems. Nobody real care much about NT in the application development world. How can NT get more popular than Unix, that beats me. Phil