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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (783425)11/14/2023 8:43:27 AM
From: D. Long12 Recommendations

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The problem with atheistic moral systems that attempt to be objective is that such systems are too subjective. They allow for too much subjective evaluation and therefore can rarely arrive at a consensus moral answer for many reasons.

Face it: most people can't make objective rational moral decisions. Most people are idiots that fall prey to all kinds of mistakes of fact and logic. Sorry but true. As my proof, I direct you to Twitter.

An external source of value like God is the only answer I see. The community of faith is resilient, transmits and preserves values, and preserves social cohesion better than just about any other social institution.

This from someone who was an atheist for over 30 years.



To: Tom Clarke who wrote (783425)11/14/2023 8:47:11 AM
From: Maple MAGA 3 Recommendations

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"Russell and other activist atheists believed that with the rejection of God we would enter an age of reason and intelligent humanism." AYAAN HIRSI ALI

"If you argue with a madman, it is extremely probable that you will get the worst of it...The madman is not the man who has lost his reason. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason." GK Chesterton

“Reason is itself a matter of faith. It is an act of faith to assert that our thoughts have any relation to reality at all.” G.K. Chesterton