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To: Elroy who wrote (74305)11/17/2023 3:08:13 PM
From: Paul Senior1 Recommendation

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  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 78748
 
ALGT. My favorite airline stock in past. Has concentrated in flying where there's not much competition (small towns), to to vacation areas. So business model is cheap fares for the non-business traveler. Has had best roe of any of the airlines afaik. Used only one type of plane to save costs. That was in past under company founder. Now I'm not so sure. I added recently to my few shares. Willing to bet it might get good traffic to its warm-weather resort destinations including its captive sunseeker resort.

Elroy, now that you're out of SIMO (in Roth) you're not going to keep bombing us with GRVY and NGL, are you?
I have to assume most people here have made up their opinions on these two by now, unless there's some new information that has surfaced about them.



To: Elroy who wrote (74305)11/17/2023 4:38:24 PM
From: Harshu Vyas  Respond to of 78748
 
No position. I only own two stocks in my portfolio - CUTR and CCL. Just thought I'd share with the thread whenever I come across something that comes up on my screen.

ALGT seems to have a decent operating history and is largely a profitable enterprise. It fits in my category of "classic" value. Problems, undoubtedly, but all of these companies with low ratios have problems.

GRVY is different and, to be honest, I don't get it. Same with CSCO - you'll notice I haven't commented on it because I haven't got a clue! NGL also probably isn't the right fit for me - it's an LP and I'm foreign.

Very competitive space. Lots of debt, labor issues, potential for disasters, how can you even consider the airlines as an investment..?
Imo, young Buffett would have salivated over airlines. Recall that he bought all sorts of terrible companies with no moat, structural problems (Dempster Mill comes to mind and that was quite "late") etc at cheap valuations and he made a killing.

In fact, he hasn't been able to ever replicate those returns ever since he became "mainstream."

Even then, I truly believe the stocks you pick don't matter too much so long as your thesis remains unbroken and is somewhat rational (in most cases, I feel people on this thread are right and will probably get rewarded in the l-t so long as they're disciplined - it's the discipline I haven't mastered yet).

You understand GRVY better than anyone - if what you say is correct, my belief is that the market will agree with you.