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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (8594)	2/17/1998 11:42:00 AM
From: J.B.C.	Respond to of 152472

If you're so sure that the Q is a failure company with a niche market, why are you here?

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (8594)	2/17/1998 12:15:00 PM
From: Quincy	Respond to of 152472

Ok, Tero. Like WCDMA, Sony has this nice little format called Minidisc. It isn't cheaper or have better sound than CD, it's just recordable and smaller. Anyone want to guess the success of Minidisc? WCDMA only has advantages when sending data. I am guessing that less than 5% of all wireless users will EVER send data except maybe in WLL applications. I don't think European operators are going to back a standard that will cause the number of BTS's needed to maintain coverage to explode. The reason why they are considering the GSM overlay is simply a matter of solving an existing problem. I don't blame them for not wanting to risk the possibility that WCDMA will not work as advertised, even after waiting another three years. Infastructure breakthrough? I have nothing against Nokia. But, I don't see how their breakthrough will enable GSM to reach the basic capacity of a 3-sector CDMAOne base station. It's only marketing, Tero. As for China, what percentage of that country doesn't have cellular service yet? Hmm? "American companies fought tooth and claw to stop Europe and Asia from accepting the Nordic W-CDMA proposal. And they lost. This is not* a victory in disguise."* Earth to Tero. Since Qualcomm and many other outsider companies are not part of ETSI, how could they argue for or against the adoption of UTRA except to extend condolences on a standard filled with compromises?

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (8594)	2/17/1998 12:26:00 PM
From: Gregg Powers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Tero: Your particularly brand of self-delusion sounds like you've been reading too many Ericsson press kits. Remember, you're accepting as gospel perspectives from a company that pontificated at length that CDMA was too complex, too late to market, incapable of delivering on its promises and destined to collapse under load. Now, these same geniuses are claiming to have invented "next generation" CDMA. Sorry for the sarcasm, but hearing the arrogance as you consign QC to Ericsson's table scraps is a little too much. CDMA and IS-95 may be synomyous with Qualcomm but not limited to Qualcomm. Over fifty companies, including small, inconsequential enterprises like Lucent, Motorola, Nortel, NEC, Hitachi, Hughes et cetera are driving the adoption of IS-95 around the world. Your position not only does not reflect reality, it trivializes the breadth and depth of IS-95's acceptance throughout the telecom industry. With respect to China, are you suggesting that the Great Wall venture with the Ministry of Posts and Telephony has been dismantled? If not, then CDMA is far from a "dead" issue in China. I would point out that GSM did launch before CDMA the U.S., but the national footprints belong to Sprint (CDMA) and PrimeCo (CDMA). Ericsson's political achievements relative to W-CDMA notwithstanding, I nevertheless fail to see any equipment available for installation today, or in the near future. Nordic supremacy therefore equals an aggressive PR campaign based on Vaporware. Congratulations, you should be very proud. Finally, with regard to patents, rather than spewing fantasy, why don't you specifically examine the proposed W-CDMA standard and see just how much QC IPR is fundamental to Ericsson's position. I strongly suspect you will be less condescending and dismissive after such an analysis. But, of course, its probably easier to write hyperbole than understand the patent issues..... Gregg

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (8594)	2/17/1998 4:49:00 PM
From: John Cuthbertson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

"The Asian and European operators already committed to W-CDMA..." Hi Tero, Can you name one operator anywhere in the world that is "committed" to W-CDMA? (And can you provide some sort of attribution so that we would know what "committed" means? Voted for it at ETSI doesn't count.) Committed to a standard that does not yet exist? Even after the ETSI vote, W-CDMA is a proposed standard. It has not yet been approved even by the EU. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. ==John