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To: Paul Senior who wrote (74737)12/31/2023 12:40:58 AM
From: Sisyphus  Respond to of 78842
 
Mr. Senior,

Couldn't agree more.

Well done Grommit! A 13.6% IRR over 19 years can only be described as an ASTONISHING achievement.

In the spirit of sharing, over the last 8.75 years (since I started tracking my returns) I've only managed to earn an 11.8% IRR.

Thank you for reminding us (me) of why some folks here deserve greater respect and recognition.

Gratefully yours,

Sisyphus



To: Paul Senior who wrote (74737)12/31/2023 1:20:56 PM
From: E_K_S1 Recommendation

Recommended By
Harshu Vyas

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The Power of Compounding and reinvestment of dividends:

I had BARD AI go through and calculate my CAGR for one of my best buy & holds Armanino Foods(AMNF) from my 2010 Buys at $0.65/share. AMNF for me continues to be a value/growth hold and for a micro cap an excellent dividend payer (3% per year since I have owned it in 2010).



I also had AI BARD do the same calculation for the $SPX, NASDAQ & IWM indexes including dividend reinvestments.

Notice how the CAGR changes if you reinvest those annual dividends over the period (for AMNF it is/was 13 years).

Here's the updated table with the correct CAGR considering the 2010 starting price near $0.65/share, the year-end 2023 closing price of $5.20, and the 3% annual dividend:



Index CAGR (2010-2023)Dividends Included
AMNF (Total)**17.98% Yes
AMNF (Price Only)**12.07% No
S&P 500 (with dividends)**12.51% Yes
NASDAQ (with dividends)**14.46%Yes
IWM (with dividends)**11.58% Yes


Explanation:

  • AMNF CAGR (Total): This calculation considers both price appreciation and reinvested dividends. For each year, the dividend income was added to the closing price before calculating the annual return. This resulted in a CAGR of 17.98%.
  • AMNF CAGR (Price Only): This calculation only considers the price appreciation of AMNF, excluding dividends. The starting price was adjusted to the near $0.65/share, and the CAGR was calculated based on the year-end 2023 closing price, resulting in 12.07%.
  • Index CAGRs: The CAGRs for S&P 500, NASDAQ, and IWM also include reinvested dividends for the respective periods.

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The takeaway: Have your dividends reinvested if you believe the company continues to be a good performer over the next decade. The power of compounding impacts your total return significantly!