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To: DinoNavarre who wrote (7504)	1/2/2024 8:48:21 PM
From: Sdgla	1 Recommendation Recommended By garrettjax Respond to of 17389

BZ indeed Understanding what happened in Gaza this summer means understanding Hezbollah in Lebanon, the rise of the Sunni jihadis in Syria and Iraq, and the long tentacles of Iran. It requires figuring out why countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia now see themselves as closer to Israel than to Hamas. Above all, it requires us to understand what is clear to nearly everyone in the Middle East: The ascendant force in our part of the world is not democracy or modernity. It is rather an empowered strain of Islam that assumes different and sometimes conflicting forms, and that is willing to employ extreme violence in a quest to unite the region under its control and confront the West. Those who grasp this fact will be able to look around and connect the dots.

To: DinoNavarre who wrote (7504)	1/2/2024 10:12:41 PM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17389

The West has decided that Palestinians should want a state alongside Israel, so that opinion is attributed to them as fact, though anyone who has spent time with actual Palestinians understands that things are (understandably, in my opinion) more complicated. No member of Palestinian leadership ever expressed a dream of a 2 state peaceful coexistence. This talk comes from members of Western intelligentsia - mostly from the left. Even Arafat back in 1974, in his UN speech, spoke about a beautiful ONE country, Palestine, where Arabs and Jews would harmoniously live together. Like I posted earlier today, many Pal leaders - starting with Arafat - are very rich people. And also, popular heroes. They have the power of life and death over their people - and the money keeps pouring in. They stand only to lose from statehood. So, why should they want it?