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To: combjelly who wrote (278329)1/5/2024 5:34:54 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 370283
 
Lincoln didn't correspond with Marx. Marx corresponded with him. Just as hundreds of thousands of others did. Lincoln had a war to run and couldn't waste time writing nobodies like Marx.

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The claim that Lincoln regularly read Marx, or picked up economic doctrines from Marxist writings, is entirely anachronistic. Marx did not publish the first volume of his treatise Capital until 1867, some two years after Lincoln was assassinated. His earlier writings on the relationship between capital and labor primarily appeared in obscure European outlets with little circulation in North America, and even the Communist Manifesto of 1848 went almost completely unnoticed in the English-speaking world until sometime after 1870.

It is theoretically possible that Lincoln encountered a slim amount of text written by Marx during his time as a foreign correspondent for the New York Tribune in the 1850s, and Brockell speculates as much without providing any direct attestation. But Marx’s articles for the newspaper consisted of brief news summaries about the Crimean War, continental European politics, and piles of dry filler material about annual crop yields and industry reports. Only a small minority of these works ventured into something resembling a cohesive Marxian economic theory, and the chances that Lincoln would have encountered them let alone recognized them as such is low. In the 1850s and 60s, Marx’s name remained sufficiently unknown in America that only a tiny number of contemporary newspapers even noticed or reprinted his contributions to the Tribune. Several of those that did openly mused about the possibility that the “Karl Marx” byline served as a pseudonym, presumably intended to expand the output of other writers under Horace Greeley’s employment.
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https://www.aier.org/article/was-lincoln-really-into-marx/



To: combjelly who wrote (278329)1/5/2024 7:04:52 PM
From: koan  Respond to of 370283
 
Historical context has to always be taken into account for human behavior.

And it is hard to fathom people with slaves in 1776 were also able to fashion the worlds most advanced humanitarian democracy.

Or that they were also the best and the brightest.

Farmer John was definitely not up to the task.

Humans in general are evolving as seen by modern civil rights, but some do not evolve for myriad reasons, and hug the MAGA world as it does not require any knowledge and gets them "retribution" against those who have the temerity to think!