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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (8601)2/17/1998 3:36:00 PM
From: kech  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
This adds an interesting wrinkle to the discussion.
QCOM wants 2-5% royalties on W-CDMA. Europeans say
they'll do something else. If they can still change
it that much, one gets the feeling that this W-CDMA thing
is a little "half-baked". Or as some would say, "vaporware".
Just my opinion though.

Headline: New mobile telecom standard seen in use in 2001

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By William Emmanuel
CANNES, France, Feb 17 (Reuters) - Operators and
manufacturers of mobile telecommunications systems expect to be
able to start using the UMTS standard in 2001 or 2002.
UMTS, the Universal Mobile Telecommunications System, is set
to replace the Global Standard for Mobile telecoms (GSM) and
make mobile services more powerful.
UMTS, which was adopted by the industry during a Paris
meeting last month, was at the heart of discussions at the GSM
World Congress here.
Until recently, manufacturers such as Alcatel Alsthom
(NYSE:ALA)(SBF:CGEP), Ericsson AB (SWED:LME.B) and Motorola Inc (NYSE:MOT)
insisted on finding a compromise around the CDMA -- code
division multiple access -- technology to allow the rapid
arrival of a new generation of mobile phones.
But questions remain, especially about the payment of
royalties to holders of key patents under Intellectual Property
Rights (IPR). Several participants at the congress said QUALCOMM
Inc (NASDAQ:QCOM), which has four key patents, has told operators
they had to pay between two and five percent of sales in
royalties.
Executives of phone operators said they found this demand
too high and have told QUALCOMM they could use another
technology.
UMTS offers a capacity over several hundreds of kilobits per
second (150Kb/s at the start and later 2MB/s) against 9.6 Kb/s
for GSM. The higher capacity would allow Internet applications
as well as video images on a portable terminal.
Alain Bravo, chairman of the Mobile Communications division
of Alcatel Alsthom said such a development was needed to prolong
the life of GSM.
"The fact that all the players have agreed on UMTS will
extend the life of GSM because the people who invest in GSM are
now convinced that there will be compatibility with the third
generation," he said.
He added Alcatel planned UMTS tests from the third quarter.
Kurt Hellstroem, executive vice-president at Ericsson, said
the new standard was needed due to the "very strong demand for
capacity and security."
While some critics wondered whether it was really necessary
to be able to receive video images on a portable phone,
Hellstroem said: "The matter is not only whether you can see
video on a phone. But Internet is using more and more video and
people want to be able to receive more and more data, more and
more quickly."
He believed the new standard could be put in place soon. "I
believe that UMTS will start being used from 2001-2002. The
Japanese are saying 2000, but we think it is more realistic to
say 2001-2002."
Some experts are more cautious and say the GSM norm,
developed in 1982, took 10 years to become a commercial success.
Arun Sobti, a Motorola vice-president, said UMTS would
benefit from better conditions than GSM at the time, noting the
big increase in the use of mobile communications.
"There is a strong demand to extend the use of Internet and
Intranets," he said, but, he noted, "We have to be sure that the
matter of IPR will be settled."
paris.newsroom@reuters.com))



To: tero kuittinen who wrote (8601)2/17/1998 4:34:00 PM
From: Walter Liu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
Tero:
"I'm quite certain that you are aware that most of the companies endorsing Qualcomm's CDMA are second string wannabes in telecom markets (most, not all)"
This is totally false. All the cellular carrier in the US adopts
IS-95 as their digital upgrade technology choice because GSM is
not backward compatible with AMPS.
This include Airtouch, USWest, BANM, GTE, etc...
Using your investment-smart mentality of the carriers, who do you
think they will use for 3G technology for their future growth? Ericssion's and Nokia's which is not compatible with IS95? No way.



To: tero kuittinen who wrote (8601)2/17/1998 11:27:00 PM
From: qdog  Respond to of 152472
 
More BS............ sold my Nokia and rolled into Alcatel. Don't see the rest of Europe allowing Ericsson/Nokia to spoon feed the rest of the world with nationalistic BS........... ETSI isn't ITU.......