To: carranza2 who wrote (203616 ) 1/6/2024 7:54:56 PM From: TobagoJack Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217786 Re <<China is a dangerous rogue state. Just ask Vietnam >> I understand what you are alluding to, stuff as this video points out, but got wrongVIDEO (i) Vietnam fought the Mongols (Yuan Dynasty) for a long time; not the Han Chinese. (ii) China helped Vietnam hugely against the French at tremendous danger to self, nuclear annihilation (iii) China helped Vietnam hugely against Team USA (per Pentagon Papers), at tremendous danger to self, nuclear termination (iv) China stopped Vietnam from conquering Cambodia, and Vietnam knew it did naughty, so all good, just stop being naughtyVIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO vietnam.ttu.edu The 1979 Sino-Vietnam War was China's effort to help Cambodia which was being invaded and was going to be absorbed by Vietnam, and Vietnam was genociding Vietnamese Chinese (who constituted a very large portion of the 'boat people' forced to leave Vietnam penniless. In any case, note the specifics, explicitly no air bombardment allowed, no mission creep tolerated, no war crimes, no rapes, no mass murder of civilians, no chemical weapons, and a firm time limit for a straight Mano a Mano straight up soldier against soldier fight, and no territories taken, and no perpetual 'we are keeping it ' protocol done. No targeting of hospitals, babies, infrastructure, and no creation of permanent migrants. China is not Russia and China is not USA.VIDEO Team Vietnam and US now sports a "Comprehensive Strategic Partnership " touted by Team Bidenwhitehouse.gov Team Vietnam has five such designated partnersreuters.com . But, as in however, Team China designation sports double clusters of "Community of Shared Destiny " started December 2023 and laser-milled in gold highlighted in rare earth scmp.com Xi Jinping set to woo Vietnam with new rail and rare earth projects in bid to curb rising US clout - The South China Sea dispute between China and Vietnam is not expected to become a sticking point during Xi’s meetings in Hanoi - Xi is likely to outline China’s commitment to maintain strong ties with Vietnam even as Hanoi leans closer towards Washington Suspect "The Diplomat" copium is just comedy thediplomat.com Vietnam and China Announce Major Upgrade in Relations During Xi Visit Hanoi’s decision to join Beijing’s “community of common destiny” is consistent with the country’s longstanding policy of assurance toward its northern neighbor. ... Vietnam’s state media called the visit a “historic milestone” that would elevate China-Vietnam inter-party and inter-state relations to a higher level. ... the copium is understandable even as unbecoming. Re the community, it tags well with BRICS+, Belt & Road, etc etc en.moj.gov.cn China issues white paper on global community of shared future, a decade after vision proposed Reads very based. So, you see, Team China is not afraid of any fight, but fights for specific political objectives as opposed to BS reasons that ends up being perpetual warsreuters.com Pacts signed by Vietnam, China during Xi's Hanoi trip December 15, 20232:01 PM GMT+7Updated 23 days ago HANOI, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Vietnam and China signed a 16-page joint declaration and 36 co-operation documents in areas such as infrastructure, trade and security, during a visit to Hanoi by Chinese President Xi Jinping. Half the agreements signed this week by the Communist-ruled countries were non-binding. Their content was not made public. The list of deals covers topics such as rail links and security. Here are of some of the most important signings:INFRASTRUCTURE & RAIL LINKS * Memorandums of understanding (MoUs) on strengthening Vietnam-China railway cooperation and aid for cross-border railway development * An agreement on jointly building a new bridge across the Red River to connect Vietnam's Lao Cai province and China's Yunnan province * A commitment in the joint statement to the two countries working on the construction of interoperable railways connecting China to the Vietnamese northern port of Haiphong.DEFENCE & SECURITY * MoU on joint naval patrols in the Gulf of Tonkin * An agreement on establishing a hotline between Vietnam's agriculture ministry and China's coastguard for handling unexpected incidents arising from Vietnam's fisheries activities in the South China Sea (in addition to an earlier pledge to enhance an existing hotline between defence ministries) * An agreement on the extradition of prisoners and people convicted of crimes * An agreement on conducting joint search-and-rescue operations at sea * A commitment in the joint statement to boosting security and intelligence cooperation, including against "hostile forces".DIGITAL, DATA & TELECOMMUNICATIONS * MoUs on cooperation and investment in the digital economy and data * An MoU on cooperation in telecommunications, information technology, communications and digital transformation.TRADE & INVESTMENT * MoU on enhancing development cooperation and promoting the implementation of the Global Development Initiative, a Chinese initiative to promote global economic growth * MoU on promoting investment cooperation in green development * Action plans until 2026 on the implementation of previous MoUs between Vietnam and China's southern province of Yunnan and the autonomous region of Guangxi on enhancing economic and trade cooperation * In the joint statement the two nations pledged to develop an economic zone to boost trade and investment.