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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Bill who wrote (282193)4/2/2024 5:43:08 PM
From: abuelita  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 360988
 
that Hutchinson woman ?????

oh my lord, what a small minded, up-tight and childish thing to say.



To: Bill who wrote (282193)4/2/2024 6:49:58 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 360988
 
As I recall...

I recall having had that discussion, as well. From me:

Message 34477376
Message 34202553

I recall having an extended conversation with i-node about the dubious nature of testimony not subject to cross examination. I would think that you would want that evidence held until trial where the evidence can be effectively refuted. Not fair to not hear both sides before making a judgment, after all.
As i-node used to argue re the Select Committee evidence, there has been no cross-examination. Because, I argued, that format had no provision for it. We're a long way down the road from there, there still has not been a formal rebuttal let alone cross examination, nor has there been a credible informal rebuttal.
Different situations call for different levels and types of evidence. Some things, like a criminal trial, require more; some things, like accepting as plausible fact what some yahoo says on SI will pass with less.

The topic on the table, from Thomas:

an early transcribed interview conducted by the committee included precisely that evidence from a key source


So, we have some unnamed person who was supposedly interviewed by the Committee. If it happened at all, we know there was no cross examination. We don't know what other checking it out may have been done by the committee. Was it testimony under oath or simply an interview? Is the person credible and/or in a position to know? This is a topic for which there would be documents, after all. Yet all we are told is that somebody said something to the Committee. Need more than that.

I repeat:

Your offering is insufficient. Show me where the claim was somehow validated or give it up.



To: Bill who wrote (282193)4/2/2024 8:13:39 PM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 360988
 
It's especially funny since he testified under threat of prosecution (DOJ has aggressively prosecuted Trump associates for Congressional testimony) and there was ONLY cross examination and nothing else. Every committee member was hostile to the witness, since Dems had blocked Republicans from choosing their committee members.

Tom



To: Bill who wrote (282193)4/2/2024 9:46:25 PM
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Ty Cobb, who was once a Trump loyalist and as White House counsel defended the former president during the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, has repeatedly said that the country cannot elect Trump again.

“He has never cared about America, its citizens, its future or anything but himself,” Cobb wrote in an email to The Post last year. “In fact, as history well shows from his divisive lies, as well as from his unrestrained contempt for the rule of law and his related crimes, his conduct and mere existence have hastened the demise of democracy and of the nation.”

Cobb added that America’s adversaries and allies “both recognize that even his potential reelection diminishes America on the world stage and ensures continued acceleration of the domestic decline we are currently enduring.”

“If that reelection actually happens, the consequences will extinguish what, if anything, remains of the American Dream,” Cobb wrote.