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To: bentway who wrote (283551)	4/20/2024 5:27:30 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362299

Gerhard Schroeder, former chancellor of Germany, was personally involved in March 2022 peace negotiations. He says that the US blew up the peace deal. The only people who could settle the war against Ukraine are the Americans. At the peace negotiations in March 2022 in Istanbul with Rustem Umjerov, the Ukrainians did not agree to peace because they were not allowed to. They first had to ask the Americans about everything they discussed. I had two conversations with Umyerov, then a one-on-one conversation with Putin and then with Putin's envoy. Umyerov opened the conversation with greetings from Zelensky. The Austrian model or the 5+1 model was proposed as a compromise for Ukraine's security guarantees. Umjerow thought that was good. He also showed willingness on the other points. He also said that Ukraine does not want NATO membership. He also said that Ukraine wants to reintroduce Russian in Donbass. But in the end nothing happened. My impression: Nothing could happen because everything else was decided in Washington. That was fatal. Because the result will now be that Russia will be tied more closely to China, which the West should not want. berliner-zeitung.de www-berliner--zeitung-de.translate.goog Tom

To: bentway who wrote (283551)	4/20/2024 5:37:54 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362299

Boris Johnson went to Kiev and delivered a message: "Even if Ukraine is ready to make peace with Putin, the West is not." twitter.com That supports the ongoing pattern of behavior: Despite his probable willingness to achieve a political settlement for the crisis with Russia, Zelensky is not allowed to do so. Just after he indicated his readiness to talk with Russia, on 25 February, the European Union decided two days later to provide €450M in arms to Ukraine. As soon as Zelensky indicated he wanted to have talks with Vladimir Putin on 21 March, the European Union decided to double its military aid to €1 billion on 23 March. End of March, Zelensky made an interesting offer that was retracted shortly after. Apparently, Zelensky is trying to navigate between Western pressure and his far right on the one hand and his concern to find a solution on the other, and is forced into a ” back-and-forth,” which discourages the Russian negotiators. thepostil.com Tom

To: bentway who wrote (283551)	4/20/2024 6:49:41 PM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 362299

Fiona Hill (a Putin-hating fanatic) confirms the peace deal: “Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement. Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.” responsiblestatecraft.org And Ukraine confirms that NATO vetoed the deal: According Ukrainska Pravda sources close to Zelenskyy, Boris Johnson, who appeared in the capital almost without warning, brought two simple messages. The first is that Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with. And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not. pravda.com.ua Tom

To: bentway who wrote (283551)	4/20/2024 6:50:49 PM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 362299

Putin: "Peace was signed between Ukraine and Russia in the spring of 2022." Putin publicly showed the previously unpublished document in front of South African President Ramaphosa. 🇷🇺‼️Putin: "Peace was signed between Ukraine and Russia in the spring of 2022."‼️ #Putin publicly showed the previously unpublished document in front of South African President Ramaphosa. (Nato reportedly sent disgraced US puppet Boris Johnson to force Kiev to back down.) pic.twitter.com/DQ4stmvAD3 — Djole 🇷🇸 (@onlydjole) June 17, 2023 Tom