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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (284651)	4/30/2024 5:27:49 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 357798

It's preposterous to claim that anyone was planning an elaborate takedown ahead of him ahead of him winning. It's an established fact, known as the Russia Hoax. In 2015 - before any GOP primaries - we had "OCONUS lures" and arranging for Estonia et al to report phony communications between Trump & Russia. Tom

To: Lane3 who wrote (284651)	4/30/2024 7:30:41 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 357798

If he was such a clown why did you have to steal the 2020 election and are you now already having to steal 2024? Seems to me the election thief’s are the clowns.

To: Lane3 who wrote (284651)	4/30/2024 8:43:59 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357798

>>You don't come up with elaborate plans against something that ain't gonna happen. It's preposterous to claim that anyone was planning an elaborate takedown ahead of him ahead of him winning. So, that’s what you have? Clinton was too stupid to realize that Trump was beating the daylights out of her? That’s why we had 20 bimbo eruptions, many on the clock. That’s why Clinton hired people to stir up trouble at Trump rallies. And it is why she spent 1.4 billion dollars on her failed campaign. The media were in a total panic. How quickly the human mind memory fades.

To: Lane3 who wrote (284651)	5/1/2024 12:47:22 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357798

>> Even with all the bizarre stuff you believe, you couldn't possibly believe that. Before Trump was elected, none of the people who now oppose him thought he would be elected. He was, after all, a clown. They (we) were all stunned to the core when he won. Then why all the dirty tricks deployed by HRC and other Democrats? Why the Access Holllywood tape (you remember, it was going to take Trump down overnight!) Why the false AlfaBank story, an obvious nonsense allegation, that kept the CJs and Bentways of the world fascinated for months? Why did HRC send out minions to Trump rallies to start fights to make Trump's supporters look bad? Why was there are a Steele Dossier? And Pee Tape lie? Why did Robby Mook lie on ABC's Sunday show claiming Russian state actors broke into the DNC? Total lies? Who does that? Do you support that as your idea of the kind of politics this country needs? And Mook's claim that Trump "changed the platform" to be pro-Russian, another outright lie he pulled out of his ass? She literally HIRED Christopher Steele to create the infamous "dossier". Why would OUR FBI take something like that seriously? Why did the FBI refuse to indict her when she clearly was caught massively distributing classified data by illegal file server in her office broom closet? That was a pretty serious crime to just flit away after making a fairly iron-clad case against her. The point is that all these things would not have been done had they not perceived Trump as a significant threat to defeating HRC. I have no doubt you'd say, "Oh, they were just doing their jobs". But they were NOT doing their jobs. Sometimes they REFUSED to do their jobs in the service of HRC's campaign. As in many of the instances cited above. And none of this ended with the campaign. The very people you still support today set out on a campaign to destroy Trump during his presidency at the expense of the United States well-being. You attacked him, even though he gave us the first four years at peace in a long time, he controlled illegal immigration, he accomplished a lot of good things for the United States, and even in the closing days of his administration brought a fairly lasting peace in Israel -- had Biden's ignorant funding of Iran not caused the Oct 7, a peace that would still be paying dividends. Democrats were shaking in your collective boots for the entire duration of the 2016 election.

To: Lane3 who wrote (284651)	5/9/2024 7:06:58 PM
From: Thomas M.	1 Recommendation Recommended By i-node Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357798

It's preposterous to claim that anyone was planning an elaborate takedown ahead of him ahead of him winning. It's preposterous to deny there was a takedown scheme. Take for example the conspiracy theory that Trump had a deal with Putin for a hotel in Moscow. The Deep State created the smoke and then claimed there was a fire. All suggestions for meeting with the Russian Government, including Putin, originated with Felix Sater. The use of Sater on this particular project started in September 2015. All of this raises very troubling issues about FBI misconduct. Under what authority did The FBI initiate the "Moscow Tower" play in September 2015. We are supposed to believe that the FBI counter intelligence investigation, aka Crossfire Hurricane, only began the end of July 2016 because of an alarming report from an Australian diplomat. We now know that is a lie. So, over a year before Trump won the election, the wheels were already in motion. This was only 3 months after Trump had announced his candidacy. And make no mistake about it. This was a Deep State scheme: Another inconvenient fact excluded from the Mueller report is that Andrew Weissman, signed the deal with Felix Sater in December 1998 that put Sater into the FBI Informant business. And a very interesting aside: The FBI informant, Felix Sater, was a long time friend of Cohen. This now provides another explanation for how Michael Cohen became part of the Trump orbit. Did Felix Sater, while an active FBI informant, introduce Cohen to Trump? The FBI Tried and Failed to Entrap Donald Trump Using his Business Associate, Felix Sater 25 August 2019 by Larry Johnson sonar21.com Tom