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To: GPS Info who wrote (285706)	5/13/2024 2:07:55 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 357184

Although I posted this link before, John Mearsheimer makes his arguments in a more collegial form with Lex Fridman Agree. The reason I used the word, snarl, was because the two never agreed on what constitutes progress, what is of value,or even what they were talking about. They kept going back for grounding and the discussion didn't go anywhere because they were talking past each other. Mearsheimer made what I considered a good point that Pinker was equating what we know of as classical liberalism with what we know of as Democratic progressivism. For example, he listed social welfare programs early on among the examples of Enlightenment success whereas that would be more an instrumental value than a terminal one, seems to me. Like I said, snarl. But interesting. Glad you introduced it.

To: GPS Info who wrote (285706)	5/13/2024 2:32:29 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 357184

My feeling about his philosophy of love and whatever, is that it is naive. There are problems with logical solutions; and dilemmas with NO logical solution, so only an existential decision can be applied. And even though there is no logic, or fair solution, there is reality that can be observed and affected. Psychopaths exist and any psychologist will tell you, they do NOT live in the world of logic, but only in their own barren emotional being. Or worse, have irrational needs for power. So that is the reality that needs to be addressed. Trump and Putin are perfect examples. < found a snarl, a snarl that held my attention Both professors have been battered and bruised in public debates over the last few years. Although I posted this link before, John Mearsheimer makes his arguments in a more collegial form with Lex Fridman. This video received 6.2 million views - suggesting some value. youtube.com 17 November 2023 John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.