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To: Benny-Rubin who wrote (6821)	5/28/2024 12:56:13 PM
From: miraje	3 Recommendations Recommended By Benny-Rubin longz Old_Sparky Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7176

The Jet literally dove 12,000 feet,at one point we were out of control flying upside down. Years ago I was flying into PDX while the east wind was howling down the Columbia Gorge. The plane was bouncing up and down and rolling side to side. I remember hoping it would be relatively straight when we hit the runway.. A buddy of mine, who was a private pilot, once told me of a commercial jet (think it was a 727) that did a complete 360 degree barrel roll without coming apart. Something they're not designed to do. I'd be curious to know if that was a true story. Must say, I've been on a few bumpy trips, but never one approaching the kind of turbulence that you encountered. We're lucky that planes seem to hold together better than our human bodies.. :-) RE: weather.. It's been a cold and wet Spring here in western WA, with temps running 5 to 15 degrees F below average for the most part, with more of the same in the forecast for the next 10 days. Can't complain too much when seeing the tornado damage in the Mid West..

To: Benny-Rubin who wrote (6821)	5/28/2024 3:19:00 PM
From: LoneClone	2 Recommendations Recommended By John Carragher Ron Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7176

The reason I don't get on planes isn't about safety; it is due to the massive creation of GHGs that results. The best stats I have found say that if you average across all such flights, if you fly 3300 km in a jet airliner, your personal production of GHGs is a ton. I wish I could find the interview with the expert on turbulence. He said that according to the stats the incidences of turbulence has been increasing for some years as the atmosphere gets more energized. He also differentiated between three types of turbulence. I can't remember the distinction between the first two, but what makes the third group distinctive is that, like the two incidents last week, they occur in clear air with no storms or any other indicators that allows detection in advance. He also said that it is this undetectable turbulence that is increasing at the greatest rate. They are working on ways to try to detect it, with little success so far. He said that if the incidence continues to increase at current rates, the time could come when everyone is required to remain seated with seat belts on unless scurrying off the bathroom. Though I do miss travelling. air travel has become such an unpleasant experience I do not miss it at all. LC