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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (1460257)6/2/2024 2:49:21 PM
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Jesus wasn't convicted by anyone especially not a jury. Pilate in fact admitted he found nothing in him deserving death. I'd call it an extra-legal execution.



To: Broken_Clock who wrote (1460257)6/2/2024 2:59:53 PM
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Many people are saying felon baby donnie is falling apart fast.

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Donald Trump’s cognitive decline is being noticed not just by a few people, oh no, but by mountains and mountains of humans. It is all some are talking about. Many are saying that Donald Trump did himself no favors during the trial. From falling asleep in court to looking like, as Katie Phang of MSNBC delicately called out, “a weekend at Bernie’s clone,” all who chatter about Trump are now talking about his cognitive state.

What can we say about Trump’s cognitive state? Not much, except that it’s going, going, gone. Many, including Phang, are saying it was a major mistake for Trump to hold that disastrous press conference, which merely succeeded in showing the American people how awful he looks and sounds. Phang said he looked — wait for it… “Old and decrepit.”
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Slouching tiger, hidden felon - Palmer Report



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The entire time Donald Trump was on criminal trial, he whined that it was keeping him from being able to go out and campaign. But the reality is that Trump’s handlers largely pulled him off the campaign trail weeks before the start of his trial, citing budgetary issues, but clearly trying to save Trump the embarrassment of going out there and giving senile speeches.

Now that Trump’s trial is over and he’s temporarily a free man (until his sentencing hearing in five weeks), you’d think he’d be hitting the campaign trail. But he’s not. Instead he’s been sitting home doing nothing today, and tonight he’s attending a UFC event.

That’s right, Trump is just going to sit there in a chair for two hours, and then spend ten seconds waving when his babysitters inform him that he’s on the jumbotron screen. This is what counts as Trump going out and “campaigning” at this point.

Trump’s babysitters know they can’t let him go out and speak in public more than occasionally, or the headlines will end up being all about his worsening dementia symptoms. So instead they’re propping him up in a chair and having him wave at a camera. Come to think of it, given Trump’s increasing propensity for confusedly waving at no one, he might not even get the wave right.

So much for Donald Trump hitting the campaign trail - Palmer Report



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What the GOP is NOT Saying

Putin, Orban, and China rally to Trump's defense

CHARLIE SYKES

JUN 02, 2024

Donald Trump is, apparently, going to run as a latter-day Nelson Mandela, and the GOP is rallying around. What could possibly go wrong?

ICYMI: I shared some post-conviction thoughts with Politico:

We will be assured by the usual suspects that nothing matters and that Trump’s conviction on all counts won’t move the needle of our dysfunctional politics.

But there’s something about felony convictions that tends to focus the mind; and conviction on 34 counts is a clarifying event. The conventional wisdom is that this is already “baked into the cake.” But maybe it’s not, because until Thursday, Trump’s criminality was merely theoretical. Now it is a matter of public record.

Trump will now be running as a convicted felon. He will be nominated by the GOP as a convicted felon. And he will go before the voters in November as the first former president convicted of a crime.

In many states he is no longer eligible to vote. He would not be allowed to own a gun. He would be barred from serving on the board of any publicly traded company, ineligible for any position of public trust and absolutely barred from getting a security clearance.

Some voters — and no one knows how many — may think that’s relevant when they choose the next president of the United States.

Happy Sunday.

The Herd Gathers

We’ll get to the GOP in a moment, but the reaction from Trump’s international BFFs — in Russia, China, and Hungary —seems worth noting. Here’s Foreign Policy:





Via CNN, here’s Putin:

Meanwhile, Russia suggested there was a political conspiracy at play, despite Trump being convicted by a jury.

“In general, if we talk about Trump, it is obvious that political rivals are being eliminated there through all legal and illegal means,” President Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said in a daily call to journalists.

“This is visible to the whole world with the naked eye.”

Hungary’s fascist-adjacent strongman, Viktor Orban, also weighed in:

Orbán said he knew Trump to be “a man of honour.”

“As president, he always put America first, he commanded respect around the world and used this respect to build peace,” he said Friday in a post on ‘X’.

“Let the people make their verdict this November! Keep on fighting, Mr. President!” he added.

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Then, of course there is the GOP, whose support for the convicted, indicted Trump appears to be nearly unanimous. Andrew Egger notes some interesting distinctions:

One faction uttering po-faced denunciations of the New York jury’s supposed violations of cherished American norms, the other openly gibbering for Democratic blood.

Some Republicans have decided just to burn it all down:





(If you think Sam Alito is problematic, wait’ll you see Justice Mike Lee.)

What The GOP is Not Saying

Amid the GOP suck-a-thon it is worth noting that the NY hush money/election interference case is just one of many legal challenges Trump faces.

You may even have forgotten this one from late 2022: Jury finds Trump Organization guilty of tax fraud on all counts - ABC News

A Manhattan jury has found former President Donald Trump's namesake real estate company guilty of criminal tax fraud, three weeks after Trump announced a third presidential run.

The jury found the two entities of the Trump Organization guilty as charged on all counts, including scheme to defraud, conspiracy, criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records.

The Atlantic has a useful running tally of the rest:

  • The New York fraud case that Trump has already lost.

  • The Defamation and Sexual Assault cases that he has already lost (twice). The judge in the case has said that the jury found Trump liable for “rape.”

  • The Purloined Document case that charges Trump with “37 felonies in connection with his removal of documents from the White House when he left office, [including] willful retention of national-security information, obstruction of justice, withholding of documents, and false statements.”

  • The Fulton County Election Obstruction case, “a huge racketeering case against Trump and 18 others, alleging a conspiracy… with the aim of stealing the 2020 election.”

  • Jack Smith’s Election Subversion case, which charges Trump with four additional felonies for his corrupt attempts to remain in power after losing the 2020 election. This case is on hold while Trump’s claims of absolute immunity are considered by the Supreme Court.

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Despite all of this, the GOP is set to nominate Trump next month for another term in office. The furious reaction to his 34 felony convictions is an exclamation point on the GOP’s refusal to regard Trump’s rap sheet as disqualifying.

Pay attention to what Republicans are saying.

Many complain that the charges are strictly political, while others object to the nature of the charges. But no one is saying that he is innocent.

Not even his most slavish butt-kissers are arguing that Trump did not schtupp a porn star while his wife was recovering from the birth of their child. His defenders know he is lying about that. They may argue that he did not commit a felony when he paid her hush money, but no one is arguing that he did not, in fact, pay her money to keep her quiet before the 2016 election.

The New York trial spotlights the sleazy world of Trumpism. And, whether or not his conspiracy constitutes a felony (it did), it was a remarkable reminder of the man’s character and his fitness for office. The cheating, the lies, the threats, the smears, the payoffs, the fraud, the coverups, the corruption.

Leave aside for a moment the verdict of the jury: the GOP is looking at all of this as saying, “Yeah, we’re fine with that.”

While the MAGAfied GOP objects to efforts to hold him legally accountable for his actions, vanishingly few deny that he took those actions. They know (because there’s a tape) that he made the call to find the phantom votes in Georgia; they know he cheats on his taxes; they know that he has contempt for women; they know he tried to derail the certification of the election; and they know that he took the documents and refused to give them back. They know that almost every word out of his mouth is a lie.

Trump’s Republican allies don’t want him held legally accountable for any of that. But they know he did it all. And they are okay with it.

What are the polls telling us?

I have ben reliably assured that the convictions could not hurt Trump’s campaign. And maybe they won’t. But the early numbers carry a whiff of hope:

Via Axios:Poll: 49% of Independents think Trump should drop out post-guilty verdict” )

The Morning Consult poll conducted on Friday offers some of the first clues about how voters are reacting to the unprecedented situation.

By the numbers: 54% of registered voters "strongly" or "somewhat" approve of the guilty verdict compared to 34% who "strongly or "somewhat" disapprove.

*49% of Independents and 15% of Republicans said Trump should end his campaign because of the conviction.





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BONUS: One in 10 Republicans less likely to vote for Trump after guilty verdict, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds | Reuters

WASHINGTON, May 31 (Reuters) - Ten percent of Republican registered voters say they are less likely to vote for Donald Trump following his felony conviction for falsifying business records to cover up a hush money payment to a porn star, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that closed on Friday.

The two-day poll, conducted in the hours after the Republican presidential candidate's conviction by a Manhattan jury on Thursday, also found that 56% of Republican registered voters said the case would have no effect on their vote and 35% said they were more likely to support Trump, who has claimed the charges against him are politically motivated and has vowed to appeal.

Nota Bene

Susan Glasser: The Revisionist History of the Trump Trial Has Already Begun - The New Yorker.

What Trump lacked in truly incandescent rage, however, was soon supplied, in excess, by his followers—a backlash that unfolded as a carefully choreographed and truly unprecedented assault on the legitimacy of the American legal system. It struck me as no less threatening for having obviously been planned largely in advance. “Kangaroo court. Banana republic,” one social-media post from the Trump White House veteran Nick Ayers read—a pithy summation of much of the maga response. Senator Roger Marshall, a Kansas Republican, called the verdict “the most egregious miscarriage of justice in our nation’s history,” proving both that he does not know our nation’s history and that hyperbole in defense of their leader is considered the most forgivable of G.O.P. sins.

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Ali Breland: The MAGA Internet Calls for War - The Atlantic

The MAGA faithful are once again on the internet threatening violence. Lots of Republicans, of course, responded to Trump’s felony verdict with simple outrage rather than calls for a “neutralization operation.” But more extreme language has appeared all across the right-wing posting ecosystem. Some Proud Boys chapters responded with the word “war” on their Telegram channels, as reported by Wired, and Reuters found instances of Trump supporters calling for violence against jurors and the judge in the case, as well as calls for civil war and insurrection. An anonymous right-wing X account went viral by posting “Third World Problems Require Third World Solutions” on top of a video of the 2020 military coup in Myanmar.

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Adam Serwer: Trump Wishes His Trial Were Rigged - The Atlantic

There is a simple, foolproof way to predict when Trump will describe something or someone as rigged or corrupt: when he doesn’t get what he wants. Elections he loses are fraudulent, legal decisions that go against him are rigged, and anyone who opposes him is corrupt. In every single instance, Trump is decrying not a corrupt individual or rigged process, but a person or process that is not corrupt or rigged enough to give him the results he seeks.

What the GOP is NOT Saying - by Charlie Sykes (substack.com)