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To: pocotrader who wrote (1462585)	6/13/2024 3:21:16 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Recommended By pocotrader Respond to of 1572942

The Deadpool ‘Immoral but effective.’ How the ‘Wagner’ private military company lost 17,000 prisoners in the assault on Bakhmut (BBC News Russian, via Substack) Some notes: - Master Chef Prigozhin was promising that the prisoners who were recruited into Vagner would be treated "equally" as the professional thugs that were already working for the group. - However, this was not true, as the prisoners were indeed treated as expendable meat. - The Master Chef claimed that only half of his losses were prisoners, but an analysis of data shows that it was actually 88%. - A total of almost 20,000 Vagner thugs died during the taking of Bakhmut, of which just over 17,000 of them were former prisoners. - Families of these prisoner-soldiers have reported that it's hard to get confirmation on the status of these dead guys, which means many of them probably haven't been paid their 5M rubles (approx. $60K USD). - Given that Vagner recruited a total of 50K prisoners, that means approximately 1/3 of them died. - Often the wounded-to-killed ratio can be on the order of 4:1, but in the case of the Vagner prisoners, that ratio is already blown out of the water. - I suspect there was a 2:1 wounded-to-killed ratio among prisoner thugs, and that's being VERY generous to Vagner and their meat grinder tactics. In other words, VERY few prisoners survived Bakhmut unscathed. - However, the "immoral but effective" part of their tactics was the fact that the "expendables" did cause a significant amount of Ukrainian casualties. Even if the ratio of dead Vagner thugs to dead Ukrainian soldiers is somewhere around 5:1 or even 7:1, each dead Ukrainian soldier represents a life value and a wealth of experience that got lost. In comparison, each dead Vagner thug represents a life that no one gives a shit about. Tenchusatsu