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To: bull_dozer who wrote (207036)7/25/2024 3:47:53 PM
From: bull_dozer  Respond to of 217545
 
>> THE F*CKING F*CKS




To: bull_dozer who wrote (207036)7/25/2024 5:21:36 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217545
 
am hoping (1) the correction is over, or (2) the correction shall phase-change to a crash

of two minds, whether to ...

BTFD or BTFC(rash)

Lots of unpleasant memories, and the truth that am still greedy gives me pause, for I know sell quite well, always on the sunny side of events, almost all events, per Tout Ou Rien enabled by warrior gene expression

Do you remember why gold crashed back in 2012? I do not, but do and shall forever remember gold crashed in 2012.



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To: bull_dozer who wrote (207036)7/25/2024 5:52:42 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217545
 
I remember the otherwise lovely 2011 which positioned me well, and then ... out of the blue, kaboom, the FFs went to wet-work

lbma.org.uk
After the Gold Crash | Alchemist
Spring 2014 marks several anniversaries for the bullion market – 60 years since the resumption after World War II of London’s daily fixings for instance, or three years since silver touched $50 per ounce for the second time ever, and ever so briefly again. Gordon Brown’s ham-fisted announcement of UK gold sales in May 1999 still captivates public memory in the UK. But perhaps our market’s biggest anniversary this spring should also be a first. Because it marks one year since the historic crash in gold and other precious metals prices starting in mid-April 2013.
Goldman Sachs had advised clients to short gold early that week. Cyprus was told to sell gold on Thursday by the EU and IMF. Gold prices fell into London trade on Friday 12 April, dropping as the market closed for the weekend through $1,530 per ounce – the previous 18 months’ low – only to slump another 3.5% by the time New York trade ended. Then on Monday the real trouble showed up. Fellow members need no reminding (and most will want it still less). But the way last year’s crash unfolded, and how it altered demand worldwide, deserves study. Because whether those changes now prove permanent looks critical to our market. The crash also highlighted unique features, most plainly in gold, which may prove more lasting.
Across last year as a whole, gold prices fell some 30% – the same amount US equities returned to investors in total. Yet gold squeezed almost all of 2013’s drop into the second quarter alone, down 25.4% in dollar terms, and half of that was achieved in just those two days in April. A second slump to $1,180 per ounce then marked gold’s low of the year, hit on the last trading day of June and again on New Year’s Eve. Prices have essentially been flat for 12 months now, closing between $1,200 and $1,400 on a monthly basis. Viewed as a market reset, therefore, gold’s drop was swift and successful. Because while the slump was in fact finished by midsummer, the wrenching loss in Q2 forced Western sellers, whenever they then sold, to accept the discount prices needed to unleash bargain buying from Asia in particular. The surge in consumer demand for gold jewellery, bars and coins very nearly matched the outflows from exchange-traded trusts and other investment vehicles. But this extra demand wasn’t for the securitised form those investments took. Nor was it local to where their underlying bullion was held.


forbes.com
The Year Of The Gold Crash
Nathan Vardi
Oct 11, 2013,

Following the money trail

Updated Oct 11, 2013, 02:50pm EDT

This article is more than 10 years old.
For 12 straight years, the price of gold has increased in value in the face of the popping of the Internet bubble, Enron accounting scandals, the Iraq war, the boom and bust of housing, the financial crisis, and the era of massive monetary stimulus. The yellow metal soared as high as $1,900 an ounce as individual investors, hedge funds and big financial institutions piled into a perceived safe haven for the new millennium.

But gold is headed for its first annual loss in 13 years in one of the big financial stories of 2013. Gold had another down day on Friday, dropping by more than 2% after a big sale in the futures market caused the CME Group ’s Comex to halt trading in December gold futures for a few seconds. Going into the middle of October, gold has fallen by more than 24% in 2013 to a recent $1,266 an ounce and at the moment is heading toward a bear-market year.

The latest blow to gold has come from Washington, where President Barack Obama and House Republicans appear to be on the verge of an agreement that will avert the prospect of an imminent U.S. debt default. The sentiment around gold has been diminishing since April, when billionaire investor George Soros indicated that gold was no longer a safe haven and the smart money was getting out. The shadow over gold has continued through this month, when Goldman Sachs' head of commodities research said gold was a “slam dunk” sell and headed for $1,050 an ounce.

The drop in the price of gold has smashed the economics of overstretched gold mining companies that have seen their stocks pummeled this year. The Market Vectors Gold Mining ETF has tumbled by 50%. The crisis in the gold mining sector is huge given that these companies have underperformed the price of gold itself for years, giving investors little upside when the price of gold rises and sticking them with big losses when gold falls like it has this year.

Not only have big gold mining companies like Barrick Gold seen their shares fall by 50%, they are also under siege from shareholders who are angry over lavish executive pay and are demanding board room and strategic changes. Small so-called junior gold miners, like NovaGold, are doing even worse in the stock market. The company that has unsuccessfully been trying to develop a gold mine in Alaska since the start of the gold boom has suffered a 54% drop in its shares this year. Gabriel Resources, a small gold company operating in Romania, backed by billionaire hedge fund managers like John Paulson and Seth Klarman, has seen its stock trade down by 67% in 2013 to 79 cents a share.

It has been a tough year for those who championed the gold boom.



To: bull_dozer who wrote (207036)7/25/2024 5:55:30 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217545
 
key question
does China's more earnest participation in the gold market change the nature of the gold market
or the FFs can still commit wet-work and get away with it?



To: bull_dozer who wrote (207036)7/25/2024 6:03:14 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217545
 
The FFs blamed the wet-work on ... drum roll ... China

Reminder of an unpleasant time that lasted a long time. I do not believe we are again at this point, but what I believe matters not one iota ...

theatlantic.com
Why Is the Price of Gold Falling?
By Jordan Weissmann
August 17, 2012
China's problems are gold's problems


Investors who love gold tend to think of it as a sort of bomb shelter. It's supposed to be a secure place to park your money when the rest of the financial world is blowing up.

So some may find it surprising that in a year when Europe's troubles have thrown the global economy into fits, gold has been a loser's bet. The price per ounce of everyone's favorite rock is down about 7percent for the year and is off 15 percent from its September peak. According to a report released yesterday by the World Gold Council, total demand for gold fell 7 percent in the second quarter of 2012 compared to the year before.

Let this be a reminder that, no matter how long it's been around, gold just isn't that special. It's a commodity that responds to the laws of supply and demand. Unlike commodities such as wheat or oil, which you can at least eat or burn for fuel, gold pretty much lacks any inherent value beyond what the market assigns to it. And in the past decade, much of the new demand that set gold off on a wild tear from around $300-an-ounce at the turn of the century to almost $1,900-an-ounce last year has come from two places: India and China. Combined, they account for 45 percent of the world's demand for gold jewelry and bars.



To: bull_dozer who wrote (207036)7/25/2024 6:36:42 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217545
 
this is one way 2024 is different from 2012 ... exciting




To: bull_dozer who wrote (207036)7/25/2024 6:50:09 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217545
 
I trust you do realise that the success of our investment in PMs and miners depends on the interactive dynamics of very few places, and at the top of the few places, USA and China

exciting, yes?

:0)



To: bull_dozer who wrote (207036)7/31/2024 1:54:53 AM
From: bull_dozer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217545
 
>> THE F*CKING F*CKS



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