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To: Paul Fiondella who wrote (48165)	2/19/1998 5:53:00 PM
From: Diamond Jim	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

RE: Isn't that the truth about THAT product. Whatever you say SHORTY (at 69, ouch)!<VBG> jim

To: Paul Fiondella who wrote (48165)	2/19/1998 8:12:00 PM
From: David S.	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul Fiondella, Don't know why I bother. Check this paste from an earlier post and note the highlighted sentence near the bottom: <<Intel's Grove: Prepare for a billion connected PCs By Randolph Court SAN FRANCISCO (Wired) - It was with the same cool, businesslike manner that Intel Corp. unveils each new chip to bolster its dominance across the tech industry that chief executive Andy Grove took the stage Tuesday to address the chipmaker's semi-annual developers forum. With little fanfare he laid out the company's plans for what it calls the P6 microarchitecture -- the basic design that will be incorporated into a family of chips expected to run everything from the most basic home PCs to stacked servers. And the audience packed into the San Jose Convention Center responded in kind, with polite applause withheld until the hourlong program's end. Grove began his speech with a perfunctory history lesson on the evolution of the computer industry, concluding with a conjured fortune-cookie fortune that said: "We're heading to a world of a billion connected computers." He pointed to increased segmentation, from basic computers for beginning home users to high-end servers and workstations. Intel will provide the chips that are the building blocks for all of them, he added, and all will be a variation on Intel's P6 microarchitecture. "The latest P6 architecture is the foundation from top to bottom," Grove said. "That's the theme for this developer forum." Microarchitecture is the basic silicon design that reads in the data and executes software instructions. So far, there are several processors planned to make use of the P6 microarchitecture. For the inexpensive home computer, a processor code-named "Covington" -- with P6 architecture but no level 2 cache for high-speed memory -- will begin shipping later this year. The Pentium II has the P6 core but a big level 2 cache that runs at half the speed of the processor itself. When you step up to the next processor, called Slot 2, you have the P6 architecture and level 2 cache running at the speed of the processor. Grove and a handful of Intel employees walked the audience, numbering around 1,000 people, through a series of demos. First came a video game with high-resolution 3-D graphics running on a Covington processor. This was followed by data mining on a Pentium II with graphic readouts of the results. Grove then moved on to a more sophisticated machine used by professional 3-D animators, and finally a stack of servers running together like a mainframe to process queries on complex data sets.>> Now tell me if Andy Grove would put before a Developer's Conference a complete sham. The Covington is capable of running high resolution 3 D graphics. What do you want for $599, a Sun Workstation? Your 1970's PC mentality has tied your brain in knots, that is the braindead problem you should be concerned about, not Big Brother Intel trying to take over the world. Regards, David S. Long on Intel and Iomega

To: Paul Fiondella who wrote (48165)	2/19/1998 8:22:00 PM
From: Mike Wong	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

RE:"You admit then that Covington is a Braindead product ..." Does a product have to push the state of the art to make sense for the consumer? For me, I think that a smaller form factor with less complexity from plug-on cards, less cables because of built-in monitor, speakers, microphone, and a smaller, quieter power supply, has a lot of attraction, especially at a consumer level price.

To: Paul Fiondella who wrote (48165)	2/19/1998 8:54:00 PM
From: Barry A. Watzman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Look, one could argue that the 386SX was a "brain dead" product, and no less than BILL GATES described the 286 as "brain dead". Whatever, none of these or any other products have ever been "foisted on the "first time" PC buyer", or anyone else for that matter. Intel offers a broad spectrum of products to the market, where they compete alongside products from AMD, Cyrix and perhaps other vendors. Customers are free to examine and choose any product of those offered, including the ones that you want to think of as "brain dead", and for that matter, to reject them all and buy nothing. IF a customer buys one of the products which you describe as "brain dead", they did it because the believed (rightly or wrongly, but there is certainly no lack of advice and available information) that it was the product whose characteristics (including price) best met their needs as they perceived them at the time. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head, and from your comments I can only believe that you either do not (truly) understand, or perhaps understand but do not support the concept of a free market economy.