SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: i-node who wrote (301338)9/8/2024 4:05:47 PM
From: Lane33 Recommendations

Recommended By
bentway
Brumar89
pocotrader

  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 358478
 
there was no precedent under which Pelosi had some “right” to override the Republican choices

She didn't override R choices. Not accepting them for cause and overriding them are not the same thing. The R's had an opportunity to substitute more suitable choices. They chose, instead, simply not to play. And they didn't play.

I judged that to be a huge but fortuitous mistake.



To: i-node who wrote (301338)9/8/2024 4:15:29 PM
From: Wharf Rat4 Recommendations

Recommended By
bentway
bustersmith
pocotrader
ralfph

  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 358478
 
" there was no precedent under which Pelosi had some “right” to override the Republican choices"

The bill or rule or whatever authorizing the committee gave her that right.

United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack - Wikipedia

History
On May 19, 2021, in the aftermath of the January 6 United States Capitol attack, the House voted to form an independent bicameral commission to investigate the attack, similar to the 9/11 Commission. [29] The bipartisan Bill passed the House 252–175, with thirty-five Republicans voting in favor. The large number of defections was considered a rebuke of Minority Leader McCarthy, who reversed course and whipped against the proposal, after initially deputizing Rep. John Katko to negotiate for Republicans. [29] The proposal was defeated by a filibuster from Republicans in the Senate. [30] In late May, when it had become apparent that the filibuster would not be overcome, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated that she would appoint a select committee to investigate the events as a fallback option. [31] [32] [33] [34]

On June 30, 2021, H.Res.503, "Establishing the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol", [35] passed the House 222–190, with all Democratic members and two Republican members, Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney, voting in favor. [25] Sixteen Republican members did not vote. [36] The resolution empowered Pelosi to appoint eight members to the committee, and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy could appoint five members "in consultation" with the Speaker. [37] Pelosi indicated that she would name a Republican as one of her eight appointees. [38]

On July 1, Pelosi appointed eight members, seven Democrats and one Republican, Liz Cheney (R-WY). Bennie Thompson (D-MS) was appointed committee chairman. [39]

On July 19, McCarthy announced his five selections, recommending Jim Banks (R-IN) serve as Ranking Member, along with Jim Jordan (R-OH), Rodney Davis (R-IL), Kelly Armstrong (R-ND), and Troy Nehls (R-TX). [40] Banks, Jordan, and Nehls had voted to overturn the Electoral College results in Arizona and Pennsylvania. Banks and Jordan had also signed onto the Supreme Court case Texas v. Pennsylvania to invalidate the ballots of voters in four states. [41]

On July 21, Thompson announced that he would investigate Trump as part of the inquiry into the Capitol attack. [42] Hours later, Pelosi announced that she had informed McCarthy that she was rejecting Jordan and Banks, citing concerns for the investigation's integrity and relevant actions and statements made by the two members. She approved the recommendations of the other three. [43] Rather than suggesting two replacements, McCarthy insisted he would not appoint anyone unless all five of his choices were approved. [44] [45] When McCarthy pulled all of his picks, he eliminated all Trump defenders on the committee and cleared the field for Pelosi to control the committee's entire makeup and workings. This was widely interpreted as a costly political miscalculation by McCarthy. [46] [47] [48]



To: i-node who wrote (301338)9/8/2024 5:04:59 PM
From: combjelly2 Recommendations

Recommended By
bentway
pocotrader

  Respond to of 358478
 
No, that isn't a lie. But the actual facts. Which, given your propensity to ignore whatever doesn't fit your narrative, you are probably deeply ignorant of.

Look, no investigative committee is going to seat likely suspects. It is like wanting a suspect to get a representative, if not a seat, on a grand jury. It is nuts and/or disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

Remember that the original Senate investigation was blocked by Republicans. The Senate and its committees operate under different rules. So the Republicans are still to blame for any objections you have to the one that actually happened.

You have to figure out who is actually to blame for your problems, real or perceived, and give credit where credit is due. That is, if you actually want to solve problems and not grandstand about them. Which seems to be your actual goal.