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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (311677)11/25/2024 10:15:31 AM
From: koan  Respond to of 372043
 
What are you talking about?

There is NO way you have figured out climate models better than all the scientists in the world with PHD's in atmospheric science!

And using you internal capabilities, you should know that!

When every atmospheric scientist in the world, except those paid off by big oil, or are incompetent, agree it is settled science, it IS settled science.

The worlds atmospheric scientists talk to each other all the time, and compare research and build on each others research.

And you think one amature like you can out think all the worlds scientists!

Boy talk about delusional thinking!

All of MAGA that don't believe in AGW are just as delusional.

You say things like:" Climate models are very fancy but they do not calculate cloud effects, incoming cosmic particles that produce clouds. They don't calculate technological advances such as Cyberspace effects on what people do. One of those effects is to enable people to do lots without producing CO2."

They DO calculate those things and much much more. They can tell if a methane molecule comes from the tropics or the arctic e.g.! Can you !?

You should be able understand, not only have those scientists taken in to account all the things you say they haven't, they are light years ahead of you!!

And you should know that!

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As we all do. So you want to live in your own imaginary world.

But I do use all the external information I have available which I use to interact with my own knowledge and ideas. Some people have very low internal processing power so they depend very greatly on what they are told at any time. Others have very great internal processing power with fewer gaps in knowledge and less bung information with which to think for themselves.

Some things I know nearly nothing about, so I depend almost totally on others to do my thinking for me. Some things such as the greenhouse effect I've spent decades learning about, thinking about and deriving my own conclusions. For example I have calculated the amount of CO2 that is taken down from the gulf stream to the bottom of the ocean. I've never seen so-called experts calculate that. It's megatons of CO2. Not enough to keep up with the amount produced by people. Similarly for CO2 absorbed and sunk by dead fauna to the bottom of the ocean which is also megatons.

Climate models are very fancy but they do not calculate cloud effects, incoming cosmic particles that produce clouds. They don't calculate technological advances such as Cyberspace effects on what people do. One of those effects is to enable people to do lots without producing CO2.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (311677)11/25/2024 1:41:01 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 372043
 
"It has taken over 150 years to increase CO2 from 280 ppm to 400 ppm. "

What a coincidence; that's also how long it took for global temperatures to go up by about 1.5 degrees C.

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"Troposphere temperatures have not increased significantly."
Earth's lower atmosphere is expanding due to climate ...

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