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To: Thomas M. who wrote (62956)	12/7/2024 2:42:11 PM
From: stockdoc77	9 Recommendations Recommended By drtom1234 erippetoe Fitzhughlaw jargonweary jhcimmu and 4 more members Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 63306

You are citing an opinion piece written in Dec 2021 apparently unskewing mortality data in the UK. "Unscrewing" data is not a good idea, and can lead you down a rabbit hole. There is overwhelming data on COVID vaccine effectiveness, and I am 100% convinced of that with the evidence of my own two eyes. See the dip and subsequent rebound in US life expectancy over the last three years just as one data point. One common pattern I see in highly intelligent people (and I myself have been guilty of this in the past) is that once convinced of a point of view they can be the most impervious to contrary evidence as they are often able to come up with convincing rationales why that evidence doesnt count or should be dismissed. This again is not a left/right issue. Many weirdo leftists insisted that HIV was not the real cause of AIDS, or that nuclear power is somehow incredibly dangerous and should be phased out. Vaccine skepticism took hold initially in hypereducated liberals (San Francisco area) in the late 1990's. Somehow, it has gotten transferred to the right during COVID. Someone smarter than me would have to explain how that evolution occurred, but I still think vaccines are among the greatest inventions in human history. With mRNA tech pharma is now looking into cancer vaccines...exciting times.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (62956)	12/7/2024 4:22:01 PM
From: erickerickson	4 Recommendations Recommended By jargonweary jhcimmu Steve Lokness sysiphus Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 63306

If memory serves, after Covid vaccines became widespread in the U.S., 90+% of patients in ICUs were...unvaccinated. That's hard to argue with. And I challenge any vaccine skeptic to take a tour through an old graveyard and look at the number of tombstones where the birth and death dates are less than 10 years apart and then think vaccines are useless. And ever heard of smallpox? Here's an interesting graph: statista.com Then let's talk about scarlet fever. Whooping cough. Polio. Personally on this last, my wife was born in 1944 and remembers public wading pools being closed due to outbreaks of polio. I still remember in about 1962 or so my parents walking me down to my elementary school to get the little sugar cube with the red side to take. It was not optional. My generation (born 1956) is really the first generation in history _not_ to have to deal with a plethora of deadly childhood diseases, thanks to vaccinations. End of discussion as far as I'm concerned. There's a wonderful article in a Scientific American about graphing: scientificamerican.com. Short form: "Despite its popularity, nobody knows how Anscombe concocted his quartet. Justin Matejka and George Fitzmaurice of Autodesk Research in Toronto sought to rectify this gap in knowledge and took the concept to its extreme. They demonstrated a general-purpose method for taking any data set and transforming it into any target shape of your choosing while preserving whichever summary statistics you want (up to two decimal places). The results are the datasaurus dozen." Here's the "dinosaur graph":