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To: gg cox who wrote (209660)	12/24/2024 2:21:21 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217588

Tesla depreciation Auckland = 50% in two or three years. trademe.co.nz They have certainly not been capital gains purchases. Elon said they would be due to Full Self Drive autonomous taxi value. Since they are not yet autonomous taxis for regular people, that's for the future. But even as a regular car their depreciation is fast. Part of that is because the commie stupid Jacinda government's "$8000 free money" lolly scramble was stopped. Ending the freebie scramble, the government introduced a mileage tax comparable with the mileage tax on diesel fuelled cars. There was also free electricity at some recharge points but I don't know if that's still on offer. Electric cars now have to sell based on their own merits without a government thumb on the scale. Except that petrol cars still have extorquerationate taxes on the petrol. And the dopey commie Jacinda government banned exploration for oil so now gas is running out and fuel is all imported [some came from condensate but that's finished due to the refinery being closed]. The big boost for electric cars would come with Mq's superfast 7 Second Swap Stop Service whereby small cars could zip into a swap station, the car would eject their discharged battery and a robot would push into place the replacement and off the car would go. Total time 7 seconds. Battery weight 50 kg or maybe 100 kg. Formula1 type speed. No recharge waiting around for an hour [or three hours if there's a Thanksgiving queue] Battery costs $10,000 less Car weighs 1 ton instead of 2 tons Car costs half price [give or take a bit - half the weight doesn't mean half the price] Less weight driving up hill or over bumps = less electricity needed. Less rolling friction. Cheapest electricity with batteries recharged when the sun comes out on photovoltaics and at off-peak prices Slow-charged for no battery damage - faster is harsher on the battery Fully charged battery instead of just 80% or 90% 7 Seconds from whoa to go [worth repeating] instead of an hour. Cheap recharging as a single lane is needed with one stopping point instead of 100 recharge points with an acre of cars parked for an hour to achieve the same thing. 7SSSS could be done right on a road by just pulling into an emergency stopping lane. Price of batteries would fall because the tonnage of battery production would halve as battery tonnage would not be sitting around unused in millions of cars - a million tons of lithium mining would supply 5 times as many cars. The millions of batteries sitting in recharge stacks would act as a grid buffer and instant sink for millions of photovoltaic solar farms to supplement peak demand. The rate of change to electric instead of petrol and diesel would accelerate so people worried about CO2 would breathe easy. Even where electricity comes from coal or heavy oil, the CO2 emissions would reduce as power stations are much more efficient than little engines in cars. Regenerative braking can be done on electric cars so that's a bit of saving of energy too. Mqurice

To: gg cox who wrote (209660)	12/24/2024 10:26:52 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone	Respond to of 217588

Try the real world gg! EVs are losing hundreds of dollars in value every dayTrade-in values for electric vehicles are plummeting an average of 50% in a single year By Ryan Erik King / Jalopnik PublishedAugust 19, 2024 Wired examined the current EV depreciation trend in the U.K. and U.S. markets. Some models were noted as being worse at holding their value than others. In Britain, the Ford Mustang Mach-E and the Polestar 2 lost 52 percent of their sticker price in 12 months compared to their trade-in value. The Tesla Model 3 faired better, only losing 45 percent over 12 months and 10,000 miles. Are electric cars and trucks too heavy for America's bridges and roads? Tesla might actually lose money this year However, the worst vehicle was the Mercedes EQE. [g]The electric sedan lost almost 50 percent of its value in only 12 weeks, depreciating at a rate of $615 per day. Wired laid out all the reasons why depreciation is so high across the market: Factor in the even higher costs of electric cars and their optional extras, plus the omnipresent concerns of EV range and charging infrastructure—then look at how quickly EVs are improving with every facelift, with new models gaining extra range, performance, and charging speed over their predecessors—and soft residuals are bound to occur. Consider too how many of the EVs grabbing depreciation headlines right now are examples of first-generation technology. The Porsche POAHY+0.83% Taycan, Audi e-tron, and Mercedes EQ families are all first attempts by legacy manufacturers caught napping by Tesla TSLA+7.36% and, more recently, by a slew of low-cost, state-backed upstarts from China. They are the original, non-3G iPhones of their day and are now already being replaced by facelifted versions that go much farther and charge more quickly. The reasoning makes sense. EVs are becoming more advanced with each new model and, most importantly, getting more range. Also, new entry-level electric cars are steadily becoming cheaper over time. The cars currently on the road are going to depreciate based on the market, not the sky-high prices they were initially sold for. ----------------------------------------------------------- EVs Are Losing Up to 50 Percent of Their Value in One Year

To: gg cox who wrote (209660)	12/26/2024 11:35:18 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone	1 Recommendation Recommended By longz Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217588

The electrical infrastructure is a rats nest that will cost a trillion dollars yearly for 60 years to get it all rebuilt and intergrated. What does the United States spend on electrification yearly? At the rate we were spending in 2022 {482 billion} it will take us more than 120 years to rebuild and update!!! In 2022, the United States spent $482 billion on electricity, which was a 7% increase from 2021 when adjusted for inflation. Electricity accounted for 28% of the country's total end-use energy expenditures that year. The northeast has been told we will have electrical shortages for years as we go thru this electricity foolishness. These idiot politicians that put their constituents thru this will soon be out of office.