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To: Paul Senior who wrote (76936)1/13/2025 4:37:55 PM
From: bruwin  Respond to of 78958
 
"I don't want to pay more than 21x earnings"

So that's equal to (Net Income/Shares)x21 = ($11624/2843)x21 = ~$86/share.

Well ..... Buffett's Equity Bond calculation is = Pretax Income/shares/AAA Bond Rate = 13206/2843/5.5% = ~$85/share.

Quite the coincidence .......

Of course ORCL's share price needs to fall by 44% for that to occur.



To: Paul Senior who wrote (76936)1/13/2025 6:35:15 PM
From: E_K_S  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78958
 
GARP stocks - What's a reasonable 'Value' price

I am pretty much w/ you on that low 20x PE and certainly not anything above 35x. The big trade I missed was bruwin's buy of AMAT back in 2012. How would one know at the time that AMAT's machines would be used in every semiconductor Fab around the world.

I find the PEG ratio, or Price/Earnings to Growth ratio,(a financial metric used to evaluate a company's stock price in relation to its expected earnings growth) is a good metric for measuring value growth. Anything at/below 1 is excellent. AMAT meets that but not ORCL.

Even now, AMAT w/ a 18.88x Forward PE & PEG of 1.81 is not unreasonable. ORCL at 34x PE and a 3.2 PEG to me is in the overvalued range.

Here is a table of PE, PEG vs $SOX & $SPX





One can get lucky but sticking firm on your PE entry and PEG metrics makes for a good GARP investor. Also patients and buying when the major indexes are in your GARP range too.