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To: StockMan who wrote (12609)2/22/1998 6:34:00 PM
From: sepku  Respond to of 77400
 
NETWORKING -- Reining in the Cisco monopoly
...article via Red Herring

redherring.com

Interesting excerpt:

Mr. Nolle says Cisco's aggressive acquisition strategy has put it in danger of becoming another IBM--powerful, but unwieldy and without a unified strategy. "For example, I've heard three different views within Cisco of how to do tag switching," he says. "These aren't just differences of opinion but chasms of ignorance between development groups that exemplify how big and inflexible Cisco has become." This potential overextension has created opportunities for data networkers small and large to advance in the marketplace and has investors hungry to finance them (see "VC Whispers").



To: StockMan who wrote (12609)2/22/1998 11:39:00 PM
From: Scott C. Lemon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
Hello StockMan,

I stated:
That is what the "higher layer" object routing does ... it
replaces end-to-end packet routing with point-to-point object
routing.


And you replied:

> You are going back to before the OSI model, and starting from
> scratch again. Not very likely to happen and benefits/tradeoffs
> unknown.

I'm very sorry if I misled you with my comments, but it is obvious from your response that you are not understanding the concepts that I am trying to describe. Object routing is implemented completely within the confines of the OSI model and is simply moving routing up to the higher layers, and in doing so eliminates large portions of the lower layer traffic requirements. In one test scenario that I am working with right now, we eliminated 80% of the routed packet traffic with a single object cache. It *is* happening right now, and the benefits are saved bandwidth and/or more optimized use of available bandwidth ... and a decreased need for bigger packet routers.

(P.S. This is what my current research centers around ...)

> It is very likely that networks (Routers switches, etc..) will
> evolve into understanding "higher level" objects, but thats way
> into the future.

Nope ... new object routers are being developed (and maybe current packet routers will evolve one day) using commodity hardware today. And that future is also happening today. ISPs are starting to roll out hierarchical cache networks that are the foundation for object routing.

> Heck they are only now working on layer 3, after so many years.

No ... the companies that *you* are referring to are only now working on layer 3 ... but others are well aware of more advanced concepts.

I am pro-Cisco and own a bunch of their stock, but there are new technologies coming that are going to have to be dealt with.

Specifically look into two research projects: Harvest and Squid

Also, another good site is: ircache.nlanr.net

> Stockman

Scott C. Lemon