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To: Qone0 who wrote (1521329)2/10/2025 1:45:05 PM
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However, they can get SSI pretty easily for lifetime benefits based on being unemployable, having no English skills, having no marketable skills, having no education, and not being retired.

Immigrants living in the country illegally are not eligible for Social Security retirement benefits, but those who entered the U.S. illegally before receiving temporary permission to stay may be eligible for Supplemental Security Income benefits if they meet certain criteria. SSI benefits are distributed to people who have little or no income or resources, a disability, blindness, or attained the age of 65 or older.





The money-quote comes when the definition of legally present is described:

Immigrants may be eligible for SSI if they meet the following criteria:

  • Lawfully admitted for permanent residence.
  • Granted conditional entry.
  • Paroled into the United States.
  • Admitted as a refugee.
  • Granted asylum.
  • An alien whose removal is being withheld.
  • A Cuban or Haitian entrant.
  • Admitted as an Amerasian immigrant.
  • Admitted as an Afghan or Iraqi special immigrant.
  • Admitted as an Afghan humanitarian parolee.
  • Admitted as an Afghan non-special immigrant parolee.
  • Admitted as a Ukrainian humanitarian parolee.
Conditional entry, as well as parole status are what they give to catch-and-release foreign nationals who are "processed" by the Border Patrol after breaking and entering the U.S. illegally. The only foreigners who don't get this status are "gotaways" who escape Border Patrol detection, and are typically criminals and terrorists.

Biden's catch-and-release game is all about getting let out on the "honor system" that they'll show up to their asylum and deportation hearings, and then instantly qualifying for lifetime income benefits from SSI on the spot.

Some are noticing:

Some of these migrants don't even need to check in with the Border Patrol for processing, all they need to be is Haitian or Cuban. The Afghan rabble, mostly military-aged young men, who pushed their way onto Biden's U.S. military evacuation jets, trampling women, children, and old people with no vetting, all get lifetime SSI benefits if they ask, just by being Afghan.

Anyone with any kind of conditional entry into the U.S., or parole status, or even a deportation on hold based on endless appeals, gets the free taxpayer money from SSI, all because they are here "legally."

Some are noticing, even in Democrat quarters:


So it's not just Trump.

Democrats in fact are now trying to push back on President Trump's statement at the June 27 presidential debate where he criticized federal policy of placing illegal immigrants on Social Security because such costs could bankrupt the already problematic trust fund before Americans who paid in will be able to claim any benefits.

You can see it in the sudden rash of fact-checks coming out in the last two days about it, meaning, the internal polling isn't going well for them.

But the facts are there, even if fact-checkers are trying debunk it with their interpretations of facts -- come to the U.S. illegally, present yourself to the Border Patrol, and not only will you get to stay in the U.S., your income is free for life.

Sound sustainable? Only to Democrats. The SSI program is wide open to any illegal border crosser to presents himself to the Border Patrol. What a deal for them. What a disaster for us.



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DACA Recipients Should Make Restitution to Their American Identity Theft Victims

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By Ronald W. Mortensen on October 26, 2017


As my colleague Jessica Vaughn testified before the Senate Judiciary committee:

t would be appropriate to have [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals — DACA] applicants disclose any misuse of Social Security numbers or other personal identifiers so that the system can be purged and corrected, and so that the true number holders can be informed. It would also be appropriate to impose an additional fine on the many DACA recipients who worked illegally before obtaining DACA status and improperly used false identity information. The fines could be used to establish a restitution fund for the victims.

According to a survey jointly published by Tom K. Wong of the University of California, San Diego; United We Dream (UWD); the National Immigration Law Center (NILC); and the Center for American Progress, 43.9 percent of all surveyed DACA recipients had worked prior to gaining DACA status, and that percentage increases to 60.7 percent for DACA recipients over 25 years of age. However, these individuals were unable to legally obtain Social Security numbers for their pre-DACA employment, which means that they used fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers that all-too-often belong to American citizens, including American children.

The use of unlawfully obtained Social Security numbers by individuals eligible for DACA status is so pervasive that the Obama administration instructed applicants not to disclose their illegally obtained numbers. That ensured that Americans who are the victims of DACA identity theft were left with destroyed credit, arrest records attached to their names, unpaid tax liabilities, and corrupted medical records while the DACA recipients walked away scot-free from multiple felonies — forgery, Social Security fraud, perjury on I-9 forms, and identity theft.

Now that President Trump has terminated the Obama administration's DACA program, any new program passed by Congress must require all recipients to disclose the Social Security number(s) they used for pre-DACA employment or other purposes. Furthermore, DACA recipients must be required to make restitution to the owners of those Social Security numbers as a condition of adjusting their immigration status and in return for amnesty from identity theft and other job-related felonies.

Combining mercy for children who were brought to the United State illegally by their parents with justice for their American victims is a win-win situation, as opposed to the current mercy only, win-lose situation. By making restitution, DACA recipients resolve their illegal immigrant status and receive amnesty from job-related felonies while their American citizen victims are able to recover from the devastating financial, emotional, psychological and even criminal burdens that identity theft places on them.

Providing justice for the victims of DACA applicants would require the establishment of what might be called the DACA Victims' Restitution Fund (DVRF). The DVRF would be funded by a fine paid by each DACA recipient who used an unlawfully obtained Social Security number for any purpose before obtaining DACA status. The fine might be $3,000 for the unlawful use of one number and $5,000 for the unlawful use of two or more Social Security numbers.

When DACA applications are processed, the owners of illegally used Social Security numbers would be notified by federal authorities that their numbers have been compromised. All expenses incurred by these American citizen victims in order to recover their identities or the identities of their children and clear their credit, arrest, and medical records along with wiping out unpaid tax liabilities linked to their Social Security numbers will be reimbursed from the DVRF with a maximum reimbursement per identity theft victim of $5,000.

If DACA applicants and/or their parents, who could afford to pay a coyote to traffic their children into the United States, don't have the money to pay the fines, the U.S. Chamber, Mark Zuckerberg's Fwd.US, religious organizations, employers, politicians, sanctuary cities, and others who support DACA can help applicants cover their fines rather than simply insisting that they be granted amnesty from their felonies while leaving their American victims holding the bag.

The bottom line is that if illegal immigration issues are to be resolved, the solution must include mercy combined with justice. If this can be achieved in the DACA program, then there may be hope for addressing even more complicated immigration issues.