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To: robert b furman who wrote (13280)2/27/2025 8:24:35 PM
From: Elroy Jetson  Respond to of 13775
 
Canada will impose the list of their own counter-veiling tariffs that they've prepared.

I suppose that's what you call blinking.
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I see the Midwest paying significantly higher gasoline prices.

Of course Midwesterners are retards who are very much hated by the MAGAs, so none of that matters.
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If we imposed 68% import tariffs on everything, and still imported just as much in spite of the 68% price increase, then we could pay for a small part of Donald Trump's tax-cut that he wants to extend.

It's all so stupid it's hilarious. Trump is just trying to keep his retards entertained.



To: robert b furman who wrote (13280)2/27/2025 8:37:42 PM
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Hi Robert

I think President Trump is working on a New USMC Agreement a Big Beautiful Agreement on Steroids that might even cover all of North America. If Canada & Mexico get on board, then get Brazil, I bet all of the other South America countries will be on board too.

A combined North & South America focused on reciprocal 'free' trade would help everyone.

These countries have lots of natural resources, minerals, agriculture and growing economies. Fold in a lot of the high tech resources US has, this group can compete w/ any EU country in spades.

It's early in the discussion but I think it is much larger than just Canada or Mexico.



To: robert b furman who wrote (13280)3/28/2025 3:05:23 PM
From: Elroy Jetson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13775
 
In the two weeks since Mark Carney became Canada’s prime minister, he has issued stern warnings that President Trump’s threats on trade and making Canada the 51st state had broken the relationship between the two allies.

It is clear that the United States is no longer a reliable partner,” he said on Thursday. “There will be no turning back.” - wsj.com

Then on Friday, Carney and Trump spoke and things were surprisingly civil
. “It was a very productive call, we agree on many things,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social site.

Trump went further in praising Canada in his comments at the White House Friday, noting that many countries had taken advantage of the U.S., “and I’m not referring to Canada,” adding that “we’re going to end up with a very good relationship with Canada.”

The Canadian government said that Carney and Trump had “a very constructive conversation,” and the leaders agreed to begin negotiating a new economic and security relationship after an April 28 election in Canada.

Of all the world leaders confronting Trump’s rewriting of the global trade system, Carney and predecessor Justin Trudeau have taken the harshest line with the president.

Trump understands only a hard punch to his face. Canada has retaliated with its own tariffs, doubled down on relationships with other allies and openly criticized the White House.

The tough approach—which most countries have forsworn in hopes of striking a better deal with Trump—is now facing its most crucial test as Carney begins negotiating directly with the president. Trump just announced 25% tariffs on cars and auto parts made in Canada and promised to announce Wednesday a new suite of tariffs on much of the goods imported into the U.S.

Carney told Trump on Friday that Canada would retaliate against any new tariffs, according to the Canadian government’s readout of the call.

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has said he won’t sit down with President Trump until he stops talking about annexing Canada


For Carney, the challenge is stark. There is no country as geographically dependent on the U.S. as Canada. The two countries share a 5,500 mile border, and have for a long time built cross-border ties that have bound their cultures and economies. Since Canada signed its first free-trade agreement with the U.S.—the 1965 Canada-U.S. auto pact—much of the Canadian economy has been geared toward selling goods into the world’s biggest market.

Canada sends more than 75% of its exports to the U.S., and the prospect of a drawn-out trade war prompted the Bank of Canada to warn that the Canadian economy could suffer lasting damage.

But now those bonds are fraying. Canadians have become so incensed by Trump’s actions and rhetoric that they have stopped traveling south. Airline bookings from Canada to the U.S. have fallen more than 70%, according to OAG, an aviation data provider. Travel demand has fallen so much that Canadian airlines have cut flights to the U.S., reducing capacity by 320,000 seats between March through the end of October.

Carney, who is in the middle of a campaign for an April 28 election, has tried to tap in to Canada’s anxiety about Trump to make the case that he is best suited to take on the president.

He has said that Canada needs to retool its economy to become less dependent on trade with the U.S. After Carney officially became prime minister, he made a point of traveling to Paris and London to highlight Canada’s ties to Europe.

Carney also has said that Canada needs to renegotiate its broader trading and security relationship with the U.S. but that he won’t sit down with Trump until he stops talking about annexing Canada.

“There has to be respect for our sovereignty as a country,” he said on Thursday. “It’s not a big thing, but evidently it’s a big thing for him.”

Carney’s election challenger, Pierre Poilievre, the populist leader of the right-leaning Conservative Party, on Friday said he was glad to learn that Carney and Trump had spoken but blamed Carney’s Liberal Party for leaving Canada so vulnerable.

“I hope they had a successful talk,” said Poilievre. “But regardless of what was said, what is now clear is that it was a mistake over the last lost Liberal decade to weaken our economy and become more dependent on the Americans.”

Canadian officials felt compelled to retaliate against the U.S. tariffs because it was the best way to get through to the White House. “It’s one of the only things that Americans actually notice,” said Brian Clow, Trudeau’s former deputy chief of staff with responsibility for Canada-US relations. “When our retaliation causes even one American CEO in a swing state to call up the administration to complain about tariffs, there’s nothing more effective than that.”

On Friday, Trump said he and Carney agreed to meet after Canada’s election to “work on elements of Politics, Business, and all other factors, that will end up being great for both the United States of America and Canada.”

Trump’s tone on Friday contrasts with those of his calls with Trudeau. The last call between the two leaders featured yelling and profanity, and the two leaders clashed over U.S. tariffs and Canada’s retaliation.

In Friday’s post, Trump referred to Carney as “Prime Minister,” another contrast with how he spoke about Trudeau, whom he took to calling “Governor” in a reference to Trump’s desire for Canada to become America’s 51st state.