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To: IC720 who wrote (1526218)3/1/2025 9:28:16 AM
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BOOM: 'Defies description': Conservative warns 'there will be consequences' after Trump row
Brad Reed
February 28, 2025 3:57PM ET

National Review writer Noah Rothman found himself utterly aghast after watching President Donald Trump berate Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky during an Oval Office meeting on Friday.

"What just happened in the Oval Office defies description," Rothman began. "In sum, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was treated to a scolding lecture about why his country should be content with the extent to which it has defended some of its citizens from foreign aggression and should capitulate. He was berated, and forced to defend himself in a non-native language, for his failure to express sufficient gratitude to the United States for its support in its existential war effort — gratitude Zelensky has expressed on countless occasions."

Rothman was particularly annoyed at the fact that Trump saw the spat with Zelensky as "great television."

"This is not a TV show," Rothman stated. "It’s real geopolitical diplomacy centered on a real war on the European continent with real and grave implications not just for the stability of the Atlantic Alliance but the U.S.-led world order around the globe. This is not a game for the benefit of a terminally online audience that is constitutionally allergic to earnestness and solemnity."

Rothman concluded by warning Trump and his administration that "there will be consequences that follow from this, and they will almost certainly be bad for U.S. security and that of our allies."



To: IC720 who wrote (1526218)3/1/2025 9:44:09 AM
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I listened to Benedict Spence perfectly express the clueless European attitude we have today.

You don't want to miss this. America is still the world dominating power expected to crush other nations if they step out of line, but only OK if Europe approves.

The USA came out a winner in WW2 because it had overwhelming manufacturing capacity that could run other nations into the ground.

China has that role at the moment, while American workers are looking for decent jobs that can raise a family.

The same for whole of Europe too.

So seemingly,... Benedict says you cannot have people and Countries (like Russia and China) running around doing what they like to do.

Really Benedict ? Like invading other counties through mass illegal migration for example?? A nice panel of dufuses illustrating what wrongthink really looks and sounds like.

Hunter Biden committed no crimes?

Ya sure, we all believe that in Europe, as that is what the newspapers and the media told us -g-



To: IC720 who wrote (1526218)3/1/2025 9:55:13 AM
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BOOM: Ukrainians react to disastrous meeting. Zelensky approval SKYROCKETS
bbc.com
Whether or not President Volodymyr Zelensky was ambushed or should have been more diplomatic in the Oval Office, it was a disastrous visit for Ukraine.

For those watching in Kyiv, the future of their country hung in the balance.

"It was an emotional conversation, but I understand our president," Yulia tells me next to Kyiv's golden-domed St Sofia's cathedral.

"Maybe it wasn't diplomatic, but it was sincere. It's about life, we want to live."

Yulia reflects a political pattern in Ukraine: the more the country is attacked, the more unity there is.

Before the full-scale invasion in 2022, President Zelensky's trust rating was 37%. Afterwards, it rocketed to 90%.

Before Donald Trump returned to office at the start of 2025, Zelensky's approval was 52%. After he blamed Ukraine for starting the war, it hit 65%.

"They [Donald Trump and JD Vance] were so rude," says 30-year-old Andriy. "They don't respect the people of Ukraine."

"It looks like Washington supports Russia!" observes Dmytro, 26.


You wonder what the last 24 hours has done to President Zelensky's popularity.

"When the situation becomes worse, we have another rallying around the flag," explains Volodymyr Paniotto, director of the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology which conducted some of the polling.

World leaders' popularity often wanes over time, and Mr Paniotto says President Zelensky has not been immune.

His ratings especially took a hit with Ukraine's failed counteroffensive of 2023, and his sacking a year later of the popular commander in chief of his armed forces, Valeriy Zaluzhnyi.

But Donald Trump's new, transactional, often-hostile approach to Ukraine has forced the country to unite and brace for further uncertainty.

Not least with his warming to Russia.

'We are being punished for being attacked'
The initial reaction was that of shock," says opposition MP Inna Sovsun.

"It was difficult to watch a president who's been a victim of Russian aggression being attacked by the leader of the free world," she adds. "It's painful."

Ukrainian TV channels reported yesterday's scenes in a more measured way: that a minerals deal between Ukraine and the US was simply not signed.

Perhaps, given it didn't include the American security guarantees that Kyiv and Europe desperately want, it wasn't as tantalising for Zelensky as had been suggested.

"We need to find stronger allies in Europe and Canada, Australia and Japan, who've all been supporting us," argues Sovsun.

There are clearly deep feelings of resentment between Washington and Kyiv. However, Sovsun doesn't think Ukraine should give up on negotiations, but should instead reframe the debate.

"It's important to find the right mediator," she says. "Someone Trump can recognise, but someone we trust too. Someone like Georgia Meloni of Italy.

"Under no circumstances should we agree to calls for the president to resign, and I'm saying that as an opposition MP. That defies the very idea of democracy."

Inna Sovsun

Inna Sovsun is an opposition MP but does not want Zelensky to resign

President Zelensky hoped his Washington visit would lead to a deeper co-operation with the US which could, in turn, bring a lasting peace. Something Sovsun thinks nobody wants more than Ukrainians.

"We are the ones who are suffering, it's extremely difficult to live under this stress," she adds. "Just this morning, I read that my friend's son was killed, his second son in this war."

What the MP and countless Ukrainians don't want is a rushed settlement. Attempted ceasefires with Russia in 2014 and 2015 only allowed Moscow to prepare for its full scale-invasion years later.

'We knew it would be difficult, just not this difficult'

Ivanna Klympush-Tsyntsadze

Ivanna Klympush-Tsyntsadze says there is no substitute for US help

Ukrainian MP Ivanna Klympush-Tsyntsadze anticipated a second Trump presidency being less sympathetic to her country's cause, but not to this extent.

"This mineral agreement does not oblige America to help us militarily, or to upscale or continue the support it's currently giving," she says.

While there is still parliamentary unity behind President Zelensky and suspended elections, MPs like Klympush-Tsyntsadze have been calling for more involvement in negotiations.

Her European Solidarity Party's chairman is former President Petro Poroshenko, a fierce rival to Zelensky.

He was even recently sanctioned by Ukraine's leader over what Ukraine's security service labelled as "threats to national security" and "creating obstacles to economic development". Mr Poroshenko said it was "politically motivated".

Despite this, the former president said he recognised Zelensky's legitimacy as leader, to combat both American and Russian claims to the contrary.

'This is just international noise'



Taras Chmut says the world order is at stake

As sirens wail and missiles slam into cities, this is a war still raging, despite all of the talk of ending it.

Russia is not backing down on its demands for Ukraine's political capitulation and the complete control of four regions.

"This war is not for some area, town or treeline in the east," says Taras Chmut, head of the Come Back Alive foundation.

After Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, the organisation was set up to crowdsource military equipment for fighting Ukrainian troops.

"This is the war that will define the world order for future decades. Whether this world will still exist depends on how this war goes," he says.

As he ruthlessly pursues his "America First" policy, Trump wants Europe to provide security on a continent where he is less willing to do so. But Europe is divided on this, and where there is agreement it is that peace is not possible without the US as a safety net.

"Europe and the world once again want to close their eyes and believe in a miracle, but miracles do not happen," says Mr Chmut.

"Countries must accept the reality of the situation and do something about it. Otherwise, you will be the one to disappear next - after Ukraine."



To: IC720 who wrote (1526218)3/1/2025 12:15:45 PM
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Winston Churchill visiting Washington DC to request assistance in the war against Germany

This is Winston Churchill visiting Washington DC to request assistance in the war against Germany. Notice he is wearing a "zip suit" and not a traditional suit. This was to honor the British troops--the same reason Zelensky dresses the way he does.

Machine Pun Kelly (@kellyscaletta.bsky.social) 2025-03-01T15:34:26.556Z