To: koan who wrote (1528073 ) 3/9/2025 8:28:37 AM From: maceng2 4 RecommendationsRecommended By alanrs i-node longz miraje
Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1575773 When are you going to grow up ? Ukraine is a proxy war between Russia and the West. The West started it, as detailed by Jeffery Sachs (previous message) Here is Matt Taibbi throwing in his view. Is Russia at War With Ukraine, or With the West? Matt Taibbi and Racket Staff Mar 07, 2025 link: Is Russia at War With Ukraine, or With the West? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|||||~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <<German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock this week , on entering a “new era of nefariousness”: I say clearly and across the Atlantic, what is right and what is wrong shall never be irrelevant to us. No one wants and no one needs peace more than the Ukrainians and Ukraine. The diplomatic efforts of the U.S. are of course important here. But such a peace must be just and lasting and not just a pause until the next attack… We will never accept a perpetrator-victim reversal. A perpetrator-victim reversal would be… the end of security for the vast majority of countries. And it would be fatal for the future of the United States. Baerbock’s declaration that a “perpetrator-victim reversal” (a Täteropferumkehr, I’m reliably informed) would be “fatal” to the U.S. was historic. It was accompanied by a promise that “as transatlantacists,” Europeans must “stand up for our own interests, our own values, and our own security.” Although new leaders are ready to take the reins in Germany, she said, there can be no waiting for the transfer of power. Immediately, “Germany must take the lead at this historic milestone.” A few years ago Baerbock pleaded for patience with a British conservative who demanded to know why Germany wasn’t providing Leopard tanks to Ukraine. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|||||~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you listen to the Russian kid in message below ,posted by Wharf Rat the Russian explains it well. The real support for Putin comes from the older Russians who experienced the break up of the Soviet Union. Those were hard times for Russians. They do not want to re experience it. Russian was ruled by gangs of Mafia, and Putin had to be at least equal to those criminal gangs to get into the position where he is. Remove Putin, and you may well end up with someone less competent, more brutal, and worse. Why are you such a sucker for the gobchit propaganda turned out by the Western gutter press? Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices Message Board - Msg: 35033637 Third video, RTE at the 6 minute mark. Russian student in Ireland, talks about how Putin gained his popularity and the development since then. A valuable Russian view. Worth more then all the Western Press crap printed in the last few years. (with a few exceptions that are being supressed for normal viewing). A fractured and broken Russia is not the way to go. The worst type of Russian percolates to the top in those circumstances. VIDEO