To: toefonos who wrote (325685 ) 3/9/2025 6:07:54 PM From: Lane3 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 364388 Funny, I just encountered a guy asking a question along the lines of mine on WaPo. He was asking a columnist who is critical of Trump, not a bunch of magas who supposedly would know where the hell they were headed. But, unlike our own magas, the columnist did respond: What is the GOP endgame? Pete Mar 6, 12:26 p.m. As my previous lead-in description was perceived unworthy of consideration, I will try again, more succinctly: What is the GOP endgame? Is it the vengeance of the present president, an effort to undo everything since The New Deal, clear away those aspects of the state so that another form of society so many be established? All three? Your thoughts would be appreciated. Karen Tumulty Opinion Columnist Okay, I'll try again. I don't necessarily think there is an end game. That really isn't how political parties work. They are not really organized around that kind of thinking. They are about what it takes to get elected and hold onto power. Individual leaders of these parties may have those kinds of grandiose ideas, but they come and go. Here, for the halibut, is Pete's first try: What is the GOP endgame? Merely the vengeance of OrangeSpite, or antebellum theocratic ambitions? Pete Mar 6, 12:13 p.m. For several years, I have thought, since the emergence and embrace of the Moral Majority and on through the advent of the Tea Party, that the GOP sought to reverse the New Deal, perhaps returning to a time before the Progressive Era, maybe even to that state-centered unnational reality of antebellum America. Their wholesale hypocrisy, trolling culture while embracing business and billionaires, subverting voting, politicizing the judiciary, and turning citizens into workers, appeared to be means of those seeking political advantage where their ideas and policies failed to serve. And they were willing to become more like what the defeated Soviet Union and state than brave a new frontier of America in the 21st Century. But, after 9/11, and since Obama, I think that their aim is more nefarious, less American, and genuinely destructive: they seek an America that it Taliban-esque and apartheid-like, one where theocratic tyranny replaces the common good. So, from your point of view, what is their endgame? Where is this heading and where does it end? Karen Tumulty Opinion Columnist Wow. There's a whole lot to unpack in that one. I don't think rank-and-file party members think in those high-altitude and historic terms. They generally cast their votes on economic issues or to express their personal/social/religious values. However, I do think there was a real turning point about 15 years ago, when the Tea Party arrived on the scene. Even during the Gingrich era, Republicans had an agenda -- things they actually wanted to get done. Remember the Contract with America? And they were capable of negotiating, which is how they got a balanced budget deal and welfare reform in striking agreements with Clinton. What happened with the Tea Party was that an entire generation of lawmakers began arriving in Washington with the express agenda not of passing things, but of stopping them. They are also turning their backs on the traditional Republican values of internationalism and free trade. And now we have Trump, who is remaking the world order that has been built over the past three-quarters of a century by the United States itself. Where this all ends up? I wish I knew. I haven't yet gotten the answer I wanted but perhaps the answer I needed, as they say. And which I suppose I already knew.