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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (330170)	4/7/2025 11:00:18 PM
From: Mongo2116	3 Recommendations Recommended By bentway Brumar89 CentralParkRanger Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 365103

To: i-node who wrote (330170)	4/7/2025 11:00:54 PM
From: combjelly	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 365103

So, how does that make people leftist? I mean, you are going on that the politics had nothing to do with it. Yet you want to assign political labels. So why do you persist if you consider it to be non-political?

To: i-node who wrote (330170)	4/8/2025 1:19:57 PM
From: Lane3	3 Recommendations Recommended By bentway Mannie Wharf Rat Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 365103

I will try to explain my perspective in a way it is understandable: I understand your perspective. I have long understood your perspective. No need to explain it again. How is it possible you didn’t see the deficiencies? I think I have been clear that I have not been enthusiastic about any of the parties you mentioned. I think you are grossly exaggerating to call them "grossly unqualified." What they are is typical, qualified but not especially so. Any person who supported those tickets was aware of its deficiencies unless they were totally uninformed and you were definitely not that. Hence, the vote can only be explained by partisan preference. You have been offered a clear explanation by many of us over time. You should have noticed. The explanation is not partisan and it's very simple. It is that, regardless of any deficiencies, Trump is less qualified. There is a partisan cloud that often obscures the view of people who would otherwise have clear vision. I don't know that it's so much partisan but there are definitely competing narratives. I have followed your views on Trump now for a decade. I posted to you a decade ago that you set off in the wrong direction from the jump, way back when Strzok and Page were in the news. You judged that to be the root of a conspiracy by the dirty Democrats, confirmation bias took over, and you have ever since interpreted everything in that light. Back then I gave you plausible alternative takes, default takes, on various things but you would have none of it. After a while I judged you to have been hopelessly captured by and invested in that narrative and you remain so. Back then I also explained to you my assessment of Trump's qualifications, of which he had nearly none. I understand why his message resonated with a lot of voters and produced the maga movement but he was very short on skills, temperament, and experience. You would have seen that if you weren't constantly interpreting events from the framework of Trump as noble victim of the dirty Dems. Trump was and is a highly flawed individual. Much more so than any of the parties you mentioned. Now, that's just talking about him and his qualifications. That's before addressing his direction and policies, which are another matter, and which may be preferred by some and not by others for partisan or non-partisan reasons. I am sure that I see things in a more balanced and objective light than you do. I do have a bias towards the norm, which I have often referred to as the standard default, just as I have a bias towards reason and the scientific method as an operating style, I am not captivated nor transfixed nor spellbound nor deluded by some larger than life character, as are you. In short, we look at things differently. You seem to look at each incident in terms of what awful thing the Dems did this time. I look for the delta, the deviation from the norm, if any, and what significance and implications that might have. Yours is visceral. Mine is not.