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To: Land Shark who wrote (1538153)5/12/2025 1:32:27 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Respond to of 1569188
 
Tenchu's Thoughts - Was the U.S. responsible for the ceasefire between India and Pakistan?

Left-wingers across social media are running with the report that the ceasefire between India and Pakistan was negotiated without U.S. involvement.

But I also see this article from the BBC talking about how diplomatic backchannels, including U.S. officials, helped broker the ceasefire:

How backchannels and US mediators pulled India and Pakistan back from the brink (BBC)

The Trump regime, of course, is overstating their role in bringing peace to Kashmir. When the conflict flared up, it was clear that Trump and his servants did NOT want to be a part of this, and understandably so. It would have been yet another shitshow on top of the shitshows that Trump already has to deal with, namely Ukraine, Gaza, and Trump's own trade war of choice with China.

Yet I do believe the BBC when they report that the U.S. ended played a role anyway in the diplomatic resolution of the war.

Here's how both things can be true, namely the reluctance of the U.S. to get involved and the fact that the U.S. got involved anyway ...

- The BBC reported that Pakistan started hinting at nuclear retaliation (without actually saying so, of course) when they consulted their National Command Authority, or NCA. They said that the NCA makes operational decisions regarding nukes. That was probably when Marco Rubio had his "Oh shit!" moment and decided to get involved.

- I believe India and Pakistan were BOTH looking for the exit ramp. I don't believe either side was itching for a full-scale war. I believe the conflict escalated way beyond what either side wanted. Hence the respective governments of both countries reached out to the International community, and the U.S., the U.K., and Saudi Arabia became the best choices as mediators.

So yeah, I do believe Rubio was involved in the ceasefire, but I also don't think his role was all that remarkable given that both sides were more than willing to settle back to the status quo.

(Later, I'll talk about how the conflict ended up being a victory for Pakistan, and why that pisses off the MIGA crowd to no end.)

Tenchusatsu