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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (48652)6/17/2025 9:49:28 AM
From: 7kidstofeed  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50211
 
Well Slider, you and I both know there was and is far more to the Iraq story.
It goes back past 1963. And it wasn’t just about oil. Nor was it about WMD’s.
And it certainly cannot be just about a regime change which typically only last for a generation or two.
So is it really about Israel? Their control? Their $$$. ALL $$$

Israel…This little almost insignificant nation with a few million people who defy and endure all elements of conquest and assimilation. Who as a people continue to excel in every single field and every endeavor where they are found. Music, Theatre, Medicine, Law, Technology, Agriculture, Energy, Physics, Literature, Journalism, Politics, Language, etc. Who are world famous for arguing among themselves over the seemingly most insignificant and obscure, if not silly things.

Back to Iraq and Gaetz

Who were the US players directly connected to Saddam H?

What US companies directly benefitted from this war?

What technology was developed during this war?

What has happened socially to the area especially with UAE?

1/2 the story is that there were casualties no doubt, that is a part of war and will always be, until men chose to beat their weapons into agrarian utility. The other 1/2 is learning the good.
Otherwise the American Revolution and most certainly killing all the native Americans which inhabited America has no meaning. But if the “savages” weren’t killed you wouldn’t be living where you are. None of us would. Thank God for cowboys eh? False claims indeed!
Oh and how again was the American Revolution funded $$$?
Who was it that young rebel Jefferson connected with that had favor with Napoleon??
And who was this man that died penniless and somewhat thankless? Without his $$$ the American Revolution would have never occurred!

Moneychangers indeed!!!

With all the gold coins folks are stacking better hope there is a moneychanger when you need one eh? Better hope the world govt doesn’t make it illegal or worse…

And what is the solution to our govt dilemma that you propose? MAGA turns their backs on Trump because he grifts and then what?
Every single politician grifts…SO what? It is a part of every single government system on this planet!

Your bills are paid and you and everyone on this thread live comfortably!

You cheering people on to turncoat is absurd!!!

What the hell is so wrong with a successful Israel?

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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (48652)6/17/2025 10:40:48 AM
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Excellent segment with Bannon. <Tucker Carlson Warns War with Iran Would Spell End of Trump Presidency and Collapse of ‘American Empire’ (VIDEO)

by Jim Hoft

Jun. 16, 2025 3:00 pm 1749 Comments



Screenshot: War Room with Steve Bannon

Tucker Carlson sounded the alarm about the looming danger of a U.S. war with Iran under President Donald Trump’s leadership, warning that such a move would not only devastate America’s global standing but end Trump’s presidency outright.

During an interview with Steve Bannon, Carlson laid bare the stakes, accusing globalist elites and war-hungry neocons of pushing America toward a disastrous conflict that could “scuttle” the nation on the “shores of Iran.”

“I actually really love Trump. I think he’s a deeply humane, kind person,” Carlson said.

“I’m saying this because I’m really afraid that my country is going to be further weakened by this. I think we’re going to see the end of the American Empire, obviously. Other nations would like to see that, and this is a perfect way to scuttle the U.S. on the shores of Iran. But it’s also going to end, I believe, Trump’s presidency—effectively end it. And so that’s why I’m saying this.”

Carlson reminded viewers of the Iraq disaster—a war launched under President George W. Bush, which he says defined the failure of that administration and decimated conservative credibility.

“Look, I knew Bush. I knew George W. Bush. We had family connections to Bush. I knew Bush personally. I still see Bush sometimes, and of course, he hates me—and he does—because I criticized him. I focused on Iraq, and that war is the sum total, from a historical perspective, of his administration. But I knew him, and he had all kinds of plans for things he wanted to do—domestically. Domestically, to improve the country. And you may agree or disagree, but in his mind, he wasn’t just about the invasion of Iraq in March of 2003.”

The Fox-turned-independent journalist drew a stark comparison between the current moment and the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq—arguing that many in Washington still haven’t learned a thing.

“The second you get enmeshed in a real war—not a fake ‘let’s go bomb the villages and declare success’—we don’t even have a good track record,” Carlson said. “Why are the Houthis still there? There’s a whole other question, which is: how prepared is the U.S. military for a real conflict? And the answer is—totally unprepared. Scary unprepared. I don’t think people understand that. But anyway, the only reason I’m saying any of this is because I really, really care.”

WATCH:

The Gateway Pundit previously reported that President Donald Trump slammed accusations from Tucker Carlson that he has “abandoned” his hallmark America First doctrine by siding with Israel’s preemptive airstrikes on Iranian nuclear sites, according to New York Post.

The dispute erupted after Carlson accused Trump of betraying the MAGA base in his newsletter titled “This Could Be the Final Newsletter Before All-Out War.”>

thegatewaypundit.com