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Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1584760 Modern-day Marxists, or more broadly, those with neo-Marxist or collectivist leanings, often view crises like environmental degradation and the COVID-19 pandemic as strategic opportunities to advocate for systemic change. This does not mean all environmentalists or public health advocates are Marxist, but some ideological factions within those movements do pursue goals aligned with Marxist theory, such as the redistribution of wealth, the dismantling of capitalism, and the expansion of state control. Here's how such actors may use these crises: 1. Climate Change as a Justification for Economic Restructuring Anti-capitalist framing : Climate change is portrayed as a direct consequence of capitalism’s “infinite growth” model, prompting calls to dismantle market economies. Green socialism : Some advocate for a centrally planned “Green New Deal” with massive public spending, government takeovers of industries, and energy rationing under the guise of decarbonization. Global redistribution : Climate justice rhetoric is used to push for wealth transfers from developed to developing nations, echoing Marxist concepts of class struggle now recast as “north vs. south” or “polluters vs. victims.” 2. COVID-19 as a Precedent for Expanded State Authority Normalizing emergency powers : Lockdowns and mandates familiarized the public with sweeping government controls over movement, work, speech, and commerce. Universal Basic Income (UBI) and stimulus programs : These were introduced as temporary relief measures but are promoted by some as permanent wealth redistribution tools. Workforce restructuring : The shift to remote work and calls for reduced workweeks or automation-backed incomes are framed by some as steps toward deconstructing capitalist labor systems. 3. Exploiting Crises to Advance Ideological Narratives Collectivist moral framing : Individuals are portrayed as morally deficient if they resist collective sacrifice, whether by refusing a vaccine or questioning carbon taxes. This primes the public to accept technocratic or authoritarian control “for the greater good.” Fusion with identity politics : Marxist class struggle is updated to include racial, gender, and environmental justice narratives, e.g., “climate racism” or “healthcare equity”, which tie back to systemic critiques of Western liberal capitalism. 4. Undermining Traditional Institutions Attacks on individualism : The emphasis on collective responsibility during the pandemic and in climate discourse undermines liberal ideas of personal autonomy. Suspicion of the family, religion, and private enterprise : These are viewed by Marxists as “bourgeois” structures that uphold inequality and must be weakened in the name of social progress. 5. Reframing Global Governance Calls for global solutions : Climate treaties, pandemic pacts, and WHO oversight are used to advocate for supranational control, diminishing national sovereignty and aligning with Marxist internationalism. Surveillance and control systems : Vaccine passports, carbon tracking apps, and ESG (Environmental, Social, Governance) scoring mechanisms are seen by critics as precursors to a technocratic form of central planning. Summary: While not all environmental or public health measures are Marxist in origin, modern Marxist-aligned thinkers often leverage these crises to advance goals of decentralizing private wealth , empowering the state or global bodies , and redefining societal norms along collectivist lines. Their long game is often less about solving the crisis itself and more about using the crisis to justify systemic change .