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Gold/Mining/Energy : Goodfellow GDL on MSE -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Gordo who wrote (70)2/24/1998 9:57:00 PM
From: M. Merriam  Respond to of 120
 
Gordo, I appreciate your critical analysis. You wrote:

What I do not know is if the cash flow drain is due to some cyclical nature in the business

Yes, the business is seasonal. The last time I spoke with the manager of the local lumber yard, he complained about the slack cold months. I pass by the yard almost every day, and it does look pretty dormant this time of year. I recall that GDL's profits are seasonal, and I guess that cash flow is too.

Also, in a January FP article (from Stockwatch's summary), the reporter writes:

"Goodfellow's priority is to take advantage of the exchange rate and a highly efficient plant and warehouse near Montreal to expand its US lumber products sales, according to Mr Goodfellow. He says these reached US$20 million last year and his company will treble that in the next three years."

Sounds like this in-process expansion would involve building up inventory at the warehouse near Montreal and establishing new accounts with American suppliers, activities requiring cash.

However, even if there is some cyclical nature in the cash flows, in aggregate for 1997, there was a net cash outflow of $9.5M, and a net outflow of $10.6M associated with working capital items. This is not sustainable!!

Now couldn't this be due to the setup of the Western outlets, as this time frame includes the third and fourth quarters?

Actually, I'm not in that great a position to comment because I haven't seen the annual or recent quarterly report yet, just the news releases.

Maybe someone should call the company.

Mike



To: Gordo who wrote (70)2/25/1998 12:34:00 AM
From: Scott Mc  Respond to of 120
 
Gordo, Ill take a closer look at their reports, appreciate your post, I suspect it has more to do with setting up the western offices(New inventory, training, rent etc etc) and also growing their revenues, its normal to increase acct rec and inventory when revenues are also increasing. This company is quite profitable and its celebrating its 100th anniversery this year, so Im not overly worried. The dividend is like you said generous, this may be more driven by the family's needs than anything else.
Scott



To: Gordo who wrote (70)2/25/1998 12:56:00 AM
From: Scott Mc  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 120
 
Gordo, I took a look at their most recent Q, and Im not concerned, after all their total assets have increased by approx 15% Y over Y, yes inventory levels are high, although that is probably a business decision, these type of products don't usually depreciate too much, its not like a warehouse of computers or software. So yes Revenues are up dramatically, inventories up as well, I believe this mananagemnet knows what they are doing, E.G. Im hoping all that extra inventory was cross arms and electrical poles :) Scott