To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (215879 ) 8/9/2025 10:35:41 PM From: TobagoJack Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217917 re <<i do not think the strategy leadership of china has been reading Asimov. just a guess on my part. >> ... best to recalibrate, I recommend, for when I first read Foundation en.wikipedia.org , I recognised the series for what it be, just as I did when first watching Star Trek en.wikipedia.org / Zheng He en.wikipedia.org , and Star Wars en.wikipedia.org / Spring & Autumn Period en.wikipedia.org & Romance of the Three Kingdoms en.wikipedia.org , and takeaway that China reads Asimov even as Asimov copied Chinafacebook.com What does Issac Asimov have to do with Chinese history, you ask? Historian and genre writer =AZVPKBYtPZvTLJ8EUDUROHJDSwcgy03Y02VZWZNTdyw8_zf9b_8OfPb9R0gNIcwcm8GDpafBJ5BGEZST5K8Kyjr2Ajo-WbSgkzQ9mUyP_ndTf6xa__-T55hWJkMphYbIpPLEUlss3M-QMVXwkZ4V4QZZ&__tn__=-]K-R]Colin Glassey (who is also a fan!) has been researching China for his books for decades, and most recently has been reading the Cambridge History of China when he found something very interesting, as he wrote on Facebook: "In the year 1835, the Chinese scholar Wei Yuan proposed a theory of Chinese history which was almost exactly copied by Isaac Asimov in his “Foundation Series”. Wei proposed that governments cycled through three stages, 1) highly functional (tai ku), 2) capable (chung ku) and 3) degenerate (mo shih). He stated that in his life, he could see that China was approaching a degenerate stage but with wise counseling and decent leadership, the degenerate era could be of short duration. (Cambridge History of China, Vol. 10, part 1, pg. 153)." Of course, we don't know if Asimov knew of Wei, and we are guessing he did not. Also, here's Colin's Amazon page for those interested in his work or learning more on China through fiction: