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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (344046)	8/10/2025 7:51:47 AM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 360961

Ah. And whataboutism trundles onto the stage. Make your case that Obama left Trump with poor choices. I mean, with real facts and data and not made up bullshit.

To: i-node who wrote (344046)	8/10/2025 8:50:08 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360961

So you never answered me, do you understand Trump is lying when he says foreign countries are paying the tariffs and we will get rich? Do you understand, the consumer pays all the tariffs, so we will not get rich from that? And so all the money he is raising simply comes from a regressive sales tax, in effect, which means less money to invest, and raises prices and inflation! Do you understand all of that?

To: i-node who wrote (344046)	8/10/2025 8:56:23 AM
From: koan	Respond to of 360961

Do you also understand that the 35% and 50% tariffs Trump has put on Canada for things like potash, copper, nickle, aluminum, steel, LNG, oil and rare earths, etc, simply means when our industry imports those things they have to pay much more than countries that have no tariffs, and so we cannot compete. They cannot pay 50% more on all the aluminum, copper and nickle they import and stay in business! This is why factories are shutting down and thousands of workers being laid off.. And why so many corporations are moving to tariff free Canada. The US is very dependent on the natural resources above, and when our manufacturers have to pay so much more they go out of business! Do you understand that, because you don't act like you do!