To: A.J. Mullen who wrote (26203 ) 8/12/2025 11:39:50 AM From: i-node 1 RecommendationRecommended By longz
Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 26728 It's been pointed out many times that "autopilot" is engaged more on freeways and when conditions are more benign, so comparing accident rates to when not engaged is uninformative. The question is, "What are we comparing it WITH"? You have to compare things with things that are comparable. Perhaps it is not an ideal statistic, but the first question is whether it is comparable. In general, comparing accidents per million miles driven is a perfectly reasonable comparison and does convey useful information (some might argue the MOST useful information). There are a lot of rumors going around about not being able to drive to work without an intervention. Interventions can be caused by actual mistakes in analyses by the system, or by some drivers over-reacting where others might not. So, we come to this: As per the electric vehicle maker’s Q2 2025 report , the company recorded one crash for every 6.69 million miles driven for vehicles that were using Autopilot technology. In comparison, data from the NHTSA and FHWA listed one automobile crash every 702,000 million miles. “In the 2nd quarter, we recorded one crash for every 6.69 million miles driven in which drivers were using Autopilot technology. For drivers who were not using Autopilot technology, we recorded one crash for every 963,000 miles driven. By comparison, the most recent data available from NHTSA and FHWA (from 2023) shows that in the United States there was an automobile crash approximately every 702,000 miles,” Tesla wrote in its report. This seems like a good trajectory, although we do not know the severity of the crashes -- although if you're going to be in accident, a Tesla is likely a good car to be in based on is general safety test results. While we don't have perfect information this definitely seems like a statistic worthy of reporting and celebrating. No?